Vegans don’t want you to not have fun in life. We want you to live your life and let others live theirs, too.
“You don’t eat the food I like, so you’re WRONG!!! 🤪” - 😂
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Good on you. I poisoned myself once because I used lemon juice instead of vinagre to lower the ph while making it.
Stick to the recipe, the ingredients and keep everything clean.
Vegans are not correct.
Vegetarians? Arguably yes. Not vegans.
If the cow I’m drinking milk from is living a decent happy life its not immoral for me to drink it.
I’m not even a vegetarian though, so I will say that the spirit of this tweet at least makes sense to me. I get it.
As a Vegetarian I disagree. We’re the most schizophrenic when it comes to animal welfare. No meat as we don’t want to kill for our food, but milk and cheese is only possible when we kill calves and eggs are only possible when we shredder 50% of the baby chicks.
Yes, alternatives are starting to pop up, but they are still in the minority here.
If it’s not about animal welfare, but sustainability Vegans also win, because dairy is pretty bad in this aspect too.
Um, you should maybe look up, why cows give milk in the first place? It’s not like it’s an animal that just randomly produces milk…little hint: why do human mothers produce milk when they gave birth, but don’t do it randomly their whole life 🤔
I forgot who I stole it from, but veganism is my favorite example of a position that has nearly unassailable reasoning, but is still utterly unconvincing to most people.
The age old question. Do people make decisions using reasoning? Or do they make decisions based on emotions, and rationalise them afterwards using their reasoning?
I’d say the balancing factor tends to be effort. We are, as living creatures, lazy. That’s how you survive. The level of empathy you need to acquire before the suffering of a chicken you will never meet is going to compete with your desire to eat easily available delicious food made from them is going to have to be very high.
And once you make your choice you’re not going to internalise the idea that you are knowingly operating from a moral code informed by an acceptance of laziness are you? That conflicts with the self identity of being a rational and good person.
Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes somewhere in the middle.
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Just eat less meat. You don’t have to go 0-100. Skip the patty, skip the filet. Double up on proteins. Dairy shouldn’t be an end goal but substitute the actual meat for dairy for at least some reduction. Pick the food that is vegan instead of the one using meat stock, etc. Little things here and there. Default to meatless, eat the damn meat if you absolutely have to. Increase this change over time, and make sure to add a vegan B12 supplement. 80% is better than 100%. 60% is better than 80% when you get there. Maybe someday you hit 0%. Achieve perfect through gradual change, don’t shun good if you can’t be perfect.
That’s the thing. If we could use less meat, use less cars, use less fossil fuels, we would all be happier. But me choosing to do these things sounds to people as just bending over for somebody else to use what I don’t use. I just want a happier lifestyle? I’m not doing it for politics or self sacrifice, I’m just taking a step backwarda and realizing that mcdonalds sucks, car commuting sucks.
But I will use the car when I need to go to the countryside and there is no BETTER alternative!
One change I made early on was to look for ways to shorten the distance from my food, become familiar with how it gets to my plate and just keep higher standards overall for things like meat.
The experience of buying meat in particular can be heavily abstracted and sanitized. Every big chain supermarket has an area with rows and rows of perfectly packaged cuts. There is not very much information at all about most of it.
Pick up a Styrofoam tray of boneless skinless chicken breasts from the one or two giant conglomerates. Each package is wrapped in plastic. They all have very consistent appearance, evenly colored and equally plump. They are completely odorless. It is chicken but it’s very very far away from being a chicken. It’s been through a lot of hands and miles. You’ve already hit a wall, though, because you’re not getting much more information about that meat besides maybe some marketing terms and a picture of a taco or some shit like that. You’re being sold the idea of it. All of the horrible stuff is obscured. Even the neutral stuff like what it ate, if it was ever sick or given any medications. All that stuff gets pushed into the memory hole and is supposed to never reach the consumer. If you become too curious, and start digging into it on your own, you naturally end up consuming less. They know this.
Contrast that with what’s produced more locally. Try to figure out who in your area is producing with the goal of building up an actual local foodway sustainably. How close can you get to identifiable people actually producing your food? Can you access a co-op, farmers market, CSA?
Folks who do things like regenerative farming and try to build up their soil tend to be very passionate and like to share about it. Visit a nearby farm or ranch. Many have small retail operations. They may deal in larger quantities than you’re used to. Find out the process. If an animal is involved, how is it cared for and what does it do all day? Is the animal improving its surroundings or degrading them? Are you willing to meet your food face to face?
IMO if you’re going to continue eating meat, you owe it to your food to unpack this stuff, examine how it makes you feel to literally “know how the sausage is made”, form deeper connections with your food and community, and find opportunities to make positive changes to your buying habits.
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not everyone will be able to stomach peeking behind the curtain. But that’s actually good. It means you’re a compassionate human being, and that feeling can be harnessed and channeled into better personal choices.
I’m just tired of seeing all meat-eating equated, too. The Styrofoam chicken is in a completely different category from a fresh whole chicken acquired locally from, say, a nearby farm that prioritizes regenerative practices.
Compare the true costs and impacts of each. You might forget they’re the same species. It turns out that, if you simply let a chicken just… do its chicken things and provide it with what it already knows it needs to satisfy its drives, its natural behaviors and outputs can be directed to benefit the rest of the system. It’s not easy. This is a complex system, and there’s a lot to learn. But if you can get it right, the chicken is healthy and satisfied, it improves other parts of the system during its life, has at least net-zero if not positive net impact environmentally, and you still get to sell it at the end if that’s what you want your operation to be.
The best arguments for not eating meat disagree specifically with what happens at the end of, e.g., a meat chicken’s life. I know not to argue against that. It’s a principled moral stance.
There will probably always be people who want to eat meat. It is very deeply ingrained human impulse. I think it desperately needs to be scaled way way back. The big players in the conventional national industry need to be seized and taken apart, yesterday. Everything good and useful there needs to be pried out of their hands, brought local, and distributed among the people.
If the tables were turned, and local, sustainable models were the norm, we’d eat way less of it, feel way better, and have the community profit instead of extracted from. “Big chicken” would not exist like it does now. We’d be having completely different conversations.
While I agree with the sentiment, I still struggle a bit with this rhetoric. When it comes to misogyny or rasicsm you wouldn’t tell someone to just try and do less of it. The meat & dairy industry is still a whole lot of abuse and exploitation, and I think everyone is probably on board with having nothing to do with it. The friction is just too high I guess.
The friction is precisely why I recommend start small. Better someone eat less meat and stick with it long term, than a full meat diet long term because they went completely meatless at once for a week or two and couldn’t handle it
Actually yes you would. For the average person in the privileged position, “trying to do less racism” or “trying to be less misogynistic” is the crux of actioning allyship, especially when people are imprinted and socialized from a young age to be/act racist and misogynistic without knowing or understanding it. Kids can’t necessarily control that, but trying to undo it by being less racist and less misogynistic day by day is the necessary work of anti-racism and feminism.
It also ignores that even allies almost always still hold some misoginy or racism, simply due to upbringing. True allies have to admit that we’re not done progressing.
Not only allies. There is a lot of internalization of misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. if you are a member of one of the affected groups but were raised in such environment.
I agree, but I think framing the goal is important.
I think the better way to go about it is to commit fully from the start. Maybe there’s some hiccups, and then you can reset and try again. I guess it’s very personal however. Some people might benefit from another mindset. Anything that gets people away from abuse, I’m all for.
When it comes to misogyny or rasicsm you wouldn’t tell someone to just try and do less of it.
Idk, these are very different things. If I think about how much I hate (some group) then I may be a racist based on that alone. If I don’t consume animal products but I fantasize about eating a cheeseburger I would still be a vegan.
Nobody is going to literally say “just do less racism” but in practice we often only deal with small parts of someone’s racism.
Well, frame it as “not one person doing it perfectly but thousands doing it imperfectly”
I’m not saying it’s bad.
Maybe in my mind, I just think it’s a bit weird to glorify it in a way. If someone would come to me and proudly say “I’m only 20% racist now!”, I don’t think my initial reaction would be “Great, keep going!”. It would probably be more like “Why are you any % racist in the first place?”.
All of us are subconsiously a tiny percent racist due to growing up in racist power structures. You’re not a true ally if you think you’re perfect and zero % racist
Maybe it was a bad example, excuse me.
What I mean is, some things in society are absolutely not accepted, and we wouldn’t congratulate people on just doing less of these things. For me, factory farming of animal products is one of these things. I do realize that some people don’t consider it to be.
Again, I wouldn’t say I disagree with the original comment, I just have some conflicting thoughts about it I guess. Hope this makes sense.
When it comes to misogyny or rasicsm you wouldn’t tell someone to just try and do less of it.
On a societal level that IS how we progress… Sorry but don’t let idealism block progress
comparing women and minorities to animals is what misogynists and racists do
And realizing that all humans are animals is what biologists do.
Analogies don’t prove anything, so we can play this game all day
Agreed.
This is the best advice you can give someone imo. Im like 75% vegan, still have eggs and bacon on the weekends, some chicken with dinner, some other stuff here and there. But mostly its beans/tofu and rice with veggies.
Some people think they have to give up everything all at once right now and of course that seems overwhelming… because it is.
Perfectionism is often used as a shield to prevent change or to avoid challenging yourself or your own rigid thinking. When you see someone saying it’s all or nothing they’re actively sabotaging themselves, often that’s exactly what they want to be doing, plausible deniability
I’m a cold turkey kind of guy. Slippery slopes are hard to navigate but clean cuts are easy.
Do what works for you. If cold turkey works, excellent. Not everyone can, and taking a gradual approach may be more realistic for them instead.
honestly, giving everything up at once was pretty easy? soymilk took a few weeks to get used to, but outside that adjustment i just added more beans to stuff. Worth at least trying before compromising on slaughter.
For you it was easy, which doesn’t have any bearing whatsoever on how easy it will be for any other person. What’s worth trying is anything which reduces the amount of suffering in the world, which is not ‘compromise’, it’s a positive step. One burger a year is an improvement and even if that’s all you can manage it’s better than nothing.
and for all the other people who will find it easy, it’s important to still have a message dissenting the idea that it’s always difficult. I’m saying that going all out and finding if you even need to compromise is better than assuming from the start that a compromise is your only viable option.
No assumptions made here, just the observation that a positive step is not a compromise.
Nah
Imagine someone being disturbed because you choose not to eat something. 🤣
I don’t care what people eat. I can genuinely go months or years without thinking about vegans. I never challenged any vegan, vegetarian or whatever other diet out there.
I have been bothered by vegans on multiple occasions including at restaurants more than once.
I have been bothered by people but I never asked about their eating habits or watched them eat.
It’s usually vice versa: someone who chose not to eat something is disturbed by anyone and everyone else who does not do the same
Well the meat industry does in fact affect climate (synthetic fertilizers are made with fossil methane), which indeed disturbs everyone.
But whatever you choose not to eat has absolutely no effect on anyone.
the meat industry does in fact affect climate
true for any industry. look for how badly we have fucked up our soil
whatever you choose not to eat has absolutely no effect on anyone
it does. what I choose to not eat I need to compensate, so there is no choice of not eating something, only real choice is what to eat
Consider the amount of corn and soy grown for livestock.
consider the amount of whatever we will have to grow to substitute meat
That would be much less than what we grow for that meat.
Possibly. Does it sound like “yeah, the problem of humans pushing other life forms into starvation and extinction is solved with this one simple trick”?
You forget to consider amounts. Some industries and foods have more effect than others, and the less you eat, the less of an effect you have.
*the less humans are on the planet, the lesser footprint we leave. It should be handled this way but alas, we are not even close
The reason we take care of a fish tank, is to maintain the fish.
We did not setup the planet to plant humans here now, did we?
I have omnivore dentition. To take advantage of it I consume seitan through raw spinach through rare prime rib. The rest of you are welcome to dine on whatever.
You also have the genetic capability to procreate with your mother
Hail seitan!
Obligatory mention that you don’t need to cut out meat from your life entirely to have a significant impact on your carbon footprint and your health. Going mostly vegetarian is also an option and its basically been the default of humanity since the agricultural revolution.
Obligatory mention that the “carbon footprint” is a tool of the billionair class to put all the blame that belongs to them on us, the consumer without any real power in the markets.
So the best way to cut down on carbon footprint is to be politically engaged. Without systemic change your personal sacrafice will not really do anything.
We have a new word for it where I live; flexitarian (not a joke). It’s like you’d eat meat sometimes. Sounded weird but I actually like it now.
I think I know this word since the late 2000s.
“But it’s awkward in social settings”, “What if I’m going out to eat”, “What if it’s the only option”, “What if I am trying but don’t realize something has an animal product”
Idk dude then eat meat in those settings I guess. 95% of your food is consumed outside of those settings so just be 95% vegan or vegetarian.
This. The stuff I cook at home is 100% vegetarian, which is most of my meals. I simply stopped buying meat when I’m grocery shopping.
When I visit people I eat whatever they have, if they have good vegetarian options i prefer that though.
When I’m going out to eat I do the same. If you’re not in the mood to have a discussion about it during lunch with your coworkers or whoever just tell them that you do eat meat but chose that one vegetarian option because it looked tasty or whatever.
Since people in my social surrounding think mostly the same I’m about 99% vegetarian.
It’s really beef that is the vast majority of emissions just cutting that out of your diet gets most of the environmental benefits of vegetarian.
And sheep. Cutting dairy is generally a pretty easy swap.
In this economy I’m buying less meat just because it’s so expensive
Sadly the price of beans and tofu is also rising, unless you buy in bulk.
25lbs of pinto beans and 20 lbs of dry rice is a month of staple meals and costs ~$35 at costco
Do I even get a choice in the matter? I hat this town. J tried to escape with tofu, cant even sneakily become vegan.
I’ve had this exact mentality until one day I just stopped eating meat, and generally nothing bad happened to me. It’s not like I miss it, I didn’t lose anything, there’s no sacrifice in my daily life. I just no longer participate in the direct consumption of the product of (still existing and still supported by my work via taxes) the terrible pipeline of infinite suffering, which is something I guess. In the past I’ve also quit smoking and I can tell you dropping animal products from my diet was much easier. So much, it felt underwhelming.
I don’t tend to talk about it, because I know how my “whining” about meat eating would be perceived, especially remembering how I myself loathed anyone who tried to convince me that eating meat might be bad. It’s just such a silly thing to defend and keep doing. Just gobble up those beans, man. They’re delicious. Leave the cow alone. Organize to overthrow the capital class. Marinate your tofu. Don’t be silly. Kill fascists, not the piggies. Come on.
My only issue as a vegan is in the social sphere. I always feel like the weird one, or that if someone cooks a meal just for me, I’m taking a lot of space (not too sure how to say this in English). If appreciate the kindness but it makes me feel awkward.
My experience was the same, I expected a lot of friction dropping meat, but there was just nothing, which felt almost laughable. I do have friends however that have struggled to drop it, so it varies I guess.
Dairy and eggs was a bit harder, because it’s included in so many products and dishes I regularly ate. Takes a bit of time and energy, but when the switch is made, I would say its pretty smooth sailing
I have a little suffering every now and then as a treat. But I have greatly reduced my intake.
But I like being silly!
Tldr: my jagged journey to being a shitty vegan started with admitting it was ethically superior and then just trying things for fun/challenge.
That was my attitude basically ever since I seriously thought about the ethics for maybe 10 whole minutes. I mean it’s obvious. But it didn’t impact anything I did until I lived on my own for a while. Then I started by cutting out the obviously reprehensible options like restaurants that support factory farming, cheap machine produced stuff, etc. I’d still eat trash from time to time, but I tried to shop for more ethical sounding options, like free to roam stuff.
Many years later I slowly started cooking vegetarian meals more than anything else, and would joke with my wife "look: totally vegan… Except for all the cheese lol. " 100% vegan meals then became a personal challenge then, so tried to make them good without cheese. Nothing bad happened.
I always said I could never be vegan because of cheese, but then I thought what if I JUST quit cheese and dairy (just obvious sources, but not like if it’s in a piece of toast and I can’t tell). Again nothing bad happened. Actually my vegetarian friends were really supportive and showed me lots of vegan dishes.
I still had eggs every day for breakfast and the occasional fish, like sardines or tuna sandwiches. I didn’t know how I could ever quit my morning eggs, and had even tried a couple times.
Then I saw a vegan thread on lemmy here and just asked someone what they ate for breakfast and they gave me a few ideas and I decided to try yet another tofu scramble and that just did it.
I did feel sluggish for a day or two, and maybe a little bit “off” for a week but not even as bad as a cold. Kind of like a hangover. I just stuck with it and ate a bit more to make up for any loss in nutrition, throw in a daily vitamin, and that was just it. And yup, nothing bad happened. Eventually I felt great. The whole time I guess it was just a couple sluggish days away from me.
I said maybe I’d eat meat or dairy just to be easy from time to time, but then Thanksgiving came and went and I really didn’t feel like it. I just brought lentil patties and ate some sides until I wasn’t hungry anymore. Easy peasy.
If anything I feel like going vegan has de-dramatised food and eating for me. It’s simple: you just eat nutritious food that makes you feel good, until you’re satisfied.
But I’m just at the outset. I don’t vet everything, I just don’t partake in anything that is made with animal products as far as I can tell, and as much as I easily can.
I think I could easily go vegan 5 days a week, but I could never give up my weekend breakfasts with eggs, cheese, and the occasional sausage or bacon. Not to mention the homemade lattes :(
If you do it, you can say you’re still 5/7 days superior, and that’s a perfect score
We’ll both catch flack from the good vegans, but if that’s what you think you can handle, go for it. Just keep an open mind and keep experimenting. :)
Non-vegans should support vegans, even if they continue to eat meat, because vegans drive better treatment of animals and also drive more attractive non-animal food options.
However, a person must have a brain and also not have meat eating tied to their masculinity.
Non-vegans should support vegans
What really drives me mad is that there’s a dead simple solution - lab-grown meat - that can obviously be the best of both worlds with a bit more development (and in fact is being commercialized already), but is being lobbied against by the meat industry precisely because it’ll be cheaper and better. And nobody seems to be talking about it.
My meat eating isn’t even close to being tied to my masculinity. I hardly even care how myself and others perceive my masculinity.
My meat eating is nearly entirely tied to my enjoyment of the taste of meat.
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As a cis dude who wears skirts, pink ball caps, and like dick as much as pussy… Please tell me how much my perceived masculinity matters to me.
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Okay Keep telling yourself that. Whatever you need to feel better about yourself.
Lower demand for animal products lowers prices for others.
Yeah, you can’t say the conditions we’re subjecting livestock to is “good”. You don’t give up your rights to eat bbq if you admit it.
Ecofeminism has a lot to say about meat/masculinity/fascism.
I won’t argue for most of the animal-based market but I reject the idea that eggs are inherently unethical. Some of the ways they are produced certainly are (the vast majority even, I assume), but chickens just lay eggs in their day to day life and I don’t think anything is wrong with eating them, though I do acknowledge that finding ethical options is probably more complex than just paying a bit extra for the free range cartons.
I should find a local producer again, then they are usually both cheaper and not factory farmed.
Let me know if you find a farmer who lets the males live, feeds them and cares for them, until they peacefully reach old age, getting absolutely nothing from them apart maybe the joy of seeing them happy.
The unethical part is the reason there’s so many more hens than cockerels (the male chicks get killed off early).
Wild hens lay 10 to 15 eggs a year. We selectively bred them into the horror of daily laying.
Guinea hens lay 30 - 180 depending on climate, food availability and predation in the wild. Domestic hens are not “bred” into daily laying, their instinctive nature to fill the nest drives them. Appropriate feed, housing and hydration allows that. That, in no way, excuses industrial egg production. However, small numbers raised as pets for egg production are treated very well and mourned at their passing. Is that acceptable?
Domestic hens were still bred into significantly higher egg output capacities.
If you want to tangent off specifically into niche birds, sure a guinea hen has a high natural egg laying capacity, as you stated, if you manipulate it’s environment. Typically in the wild, however, it would lay ~10-20 per year. Your more typical chicken that this conversation is actually about is still more than twice the guinea hen’s natural limit. Let’s keep on topic here though, yeah?
We did a similar thing with sheep, they shouldn’t have that much wool at all
Yeah this is why I could maybe be vegetarian in the future but never vegan.
no need to try to argue
Didn’t realize they are the king of what can be argued.
Well now you do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well obviously this person disagrees 🤷
Fun fact: The actor in this scene is vegetarian, so they used mushrooms instead of steak
Which is kind of wild, because I don’t know if a steak has ever looked better on film than the cut shown in this scene. I understand that sentiment may not hold true for folks on vegetarian or vegan diets based on ethical grounds, but that may as well be the Platonic ideal of “fancy steak”.
Visually, yes.
However I’ve not met a mushroom that tastes and feels like beef. Impossible burgers get close but it’s far from a steak.
I make mushroom steak from lions mane. My meat eater friends say its a pretty damn good substitute
Have you tried the
impossibleBeyond steak? Highly recommendI’ve never had Impossible Steak. Do you like Beyond? I’ve noticed some people like one or the other.
Have you tried Lions Mane steak?
Herbivorous Butcher is really good too and they have a cookbook to make your own.
There was a brand called Meati that made steaks out of mycelium that were so goddamn good. Closest to the real thing I’ve had so far. Unfortunately some shady financial shenanigans cost them their production plant. There’s a new owner trying to get them up and running again though so fingers crossed there.
I used to see their billboard a lot when I worked in Downtown Denver. Never got to try it.
Oh shoot my bad I actually meant beyond steak- I kinda hate the taste of everything Impossible makes lol
Whooaa, cool! I haven’t but I definitely need to; thanks for sharing!
Every time I visited the twin cities I’d stop by their shop and stock up on a bunch of stuff. Their vegan BBQ ribs and vegan chorizo were so good. I heard that their store burned down a few years ago, but I didn’t realize they kept their online shop open!
Yea, it’s funny because when I heard about them, I heard they made a cookbook after closing down. Like Miyoko’s new books. That it was just a local shop.
I only found the site from looking for the cookbook and found out they are still running and ship now.
Funner fact: the actor in the original Oldboy is also vegan, but he still ate that live octopus.
He’s vegetarian not vegan. It’s incredibly hard to be a vegan in korea, but it’s very easy to be a vegetarian. The vast majority of halmeoni cooking your food over there basically equivocate vegetarianism and vegan to be the same thing. A lot of traditional foods have hidden animal products in it like shrimp paste for seasoning.
I once tried talking to my like 85 year old Korean granny about it and she strongly explained to me that things like krill were more like plants than animals, which in some ways is kinda true.
It’s incredibly hard to be a vegan in korea, but it’s very easy to be a vegetarian.
A lot of traditional foods have hidden animal products in it like shrimp paste for seasoning.
Sounds like it’s easy to be a pescatarian, but not actually a vegetarian.
Restrictive Asian diets don’t sort neatly into western buckets.
By your definition, most practicing ‘vegetarian’ Buddhists are omnivores because of oyster sauce, yet they eat far less animal products than the average western vegetarian due to the low prevalence of dairy products.
Jains, for example, can drink milk and eat butter and ghee, but cannot eat root vegetables, fungi, and fermented foods, while the opposite is true for veganism.
So what do you call people who are vegetarian except for 1% of their diet? I would find it disengenuous to equate that to a regular omnivore diet.
Again, it’s kinda weird. I would say it’s fairly easy to be vegetarian since there’s a cultural understanding of vegetarians due to the cultural/religious practices of Buddhist monks.
For one, they typically have more bland foods, and typically live in the mountainous regions where there’s less access to sea food. And again, what a lot of east Asian people consider meat varies from the western nomenclature.
Where instead of basing the ethical delineation on a scientific taxonomy, it’s based more on whether something possesses a soul/conscious. If we examine the issue through that lens it can make sense that an invertebrate like a krill or even coral are closer to plants than mammals.
So nothing, basically.
TIL 200k tons of krill are harvested each year.
To be used in omega 3 supplements and fish farming. At the same time one can cut both by using omega 3 DHA & EPA supplements based on algae. Doing it for 7 years now. Also the less krill, the less whales and the less whales, the less flourishing ocean eco systems, because of the whale poop loop and whale falls.
Same in Japan… it’s so hard to be vegan.
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Ahhh, okay. I thought I had read he was vegan, maybe I misremembered or maybe the article was wrong.
May have been the article if it was originally from a Korean source. Like I said they tend to use vegan and vegetarian interchangeably a lot.
That’s slightly less fun. I’ll eat a pig or a chicken or a cow but octopodes are too smart for me to eat.
I think this is a very arbitrary line to draw, and I honestly don’t think it’s backed up by science. Octopuses may outperform pigs and cows at some tasks, but how do you measure their overall intelligence in a way that’s comparable?
Same. cephalopods in general for me. I still feel bad about eating meat otherwise but I can’t even think about eating octopus
I eat smart things only to get smarter. You are what you eat after all. Octoponi, Chimpansessies, Peeps, Dolphones, etc. Ant too since I want hive mind. My brain grows.
Okay Sylar…
I stopped eating them recently for that reason.
Pigs are smarter than dogs, that’s what makes em taste so good!
Just realised looking at this that it’s the same actor as Ralph from The Sopranos. I’ve watched both recently too!
But who plays Cypher in the Matrix in The Sopranos universe?
Ralphie
TIL!!!
And Ralph’s wig in The Sopranos is modelled on Christopher Nolan’s hair when he was directing Memento, which also stars the same actor.
