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Most provincial governments in Canada are too trying to choke off social medicine (i.e. Canadian health care system) so corporates can come in and do a “better job”. Conservatives are pretty blatant about it.
Yep. Alberta is currently breaking up Alberta Health Services in a clear “Divide & Conquer” attempt.
I guess another warning is to keep your eye on public education too
Well yeah but you have those long wait times to deal with right?
Here in America, I only had to wait 4 weeks for a video conference (in-person would have been 6 weeks) with my primary care physician so she could recommend me to a specialist that doesn’t have any openings until mid-August. Thank goodness I live in the land of the free where I only have to wait 3 months to see a doctor who has about a 20% chance to cancel on me last minute due to a “scheduling issues” and leave me hanging for another 4-8 weeks.
AND I get to pay for some of it out of pocket despite paying monthly for better than average medical insurance!
USA #1
Canada here… yes wait times are a bitch
But it must be clarified this is not a result of socialized medicine… this is mostly a result of Politicians (largely Conservatives) starving the system as hard as they can just to justify Private Medicine as the only solution.
Just to be clear, you should have read my post in the most sarcastic voice you are capable of. I don’t think 3 months is an acceptable amount of time to have to wait for a doctor’s appointment and I think it’s absolutely insane that I have to pay as much as I do for insurance and still have to pay something out of pocket for the visit. The only thing keeping me in this country is my partner’s fear of starting over in an unfamiliar place.
I’ve opted to wait a year to change insurance companies so I could resume seeing my old doc instead of starting the process as a new patient under someone else, because honestly I’d be seen at a comparative time.
Happened to my 12 year old a couple of months ago. Our hospital bill was the equivalent of ~15$. My dad went through a year of cancer treatment a little over a decade ago. His hospital bill was a jaw dropping ~15$ equivalent as well.
It keeps the hypochondriacs from wasting resources.
It keeps the hypochondriacs from wasting resources.
Are you sure? If I was a hypochondriac, the $60/mo “Medical doctor confirms you’re fine every Wednesday” plan sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
My dad had a cardiac arrest a few years ago. Resuscitation, ambulance, two hospitals, a week in a coma, another week recovering.
I think the biggest expense was putting their cat in the cattery for a week.
Meanwhile, here in the states, thanks to financial help from my mother, the over $10,000 in medical debt we’ve racked up over the past year is less than $10,000!
At first I read it as “y’all Mexicans” and was a lil confused
Yeah, it’s spelled “Muricans”.
Well, not free…. Taxes and all that. But free at the time of service, sure.
E: not sure what triggered the downvote train. Nothing I said is untrue. It’s not free, it’s paid for with taxes. It’s not a dig against socialized care, I’d much prefer to have that vs the financial disaster that US healthcare is.
I’d rather my taxes be used for that rather than bailing out banks…
It’s free as in freedom
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It wasn’t “free” - you paid for it in taxes
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How are those wait lists going for you, which are currently being debated by your MPs?
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It’s funny how y’all are shouting about this to Americans. Do you really think they aren’t aware you have socialized medicine?
Lucky you haven’t had to work the labyrinth of getting a prescription approved. In my experience it can take months do get medical care for some conditions.
My dad had to wait 6 months just to get an appointment for a doctor to recommend ankle surgery surgery which took place another 6 months later. So we have wait times just as bad as any other country.
you paid for it in taxes
you get the privilege of paying higher taxes (for less coverage) and paying higher out-of-pocket fees
It’s a system that allows 100% of the population to seek aid. Whereas the American system explicitly pushes disincentive via cost.
Claim greatness again when all of us can seek medical care without debt.
Pushes early and more treatable health concerns into later, less treatable, and more expensive concerns.
For profit healthcare operates even against its own interests.
Here in Murica, with insurance, if you need a surgery for a knee or hip replacement, news flash, the doctor usually schedules your surgery for several weeks to months out. Almost no American will be diagnosed as needing a knee replacement, and have said knee replacement that day or that week.
Herp derp wAiT LiSTs!!!111 right here in the US.
Defending our gold plated shithole country, especially with false talking points, doesn’t help you or this gold plated shithole country.
I’ve received in-patient care, overnight studies, emergency procedures, and much more in Spain without ever paying a dollar in copays or fees, and I’ve never waited more than 2 weeks for non-urgent care or an hour for urgent care.
My taxes are $600/month total in Madrid. Given that I have epilepsy, my insurance alone in the US was $490/month, AND I paid more in taxes ($1100/month).
So, yes, universal healthcare isn’t “free,” and it’s supported by taxes. And still, Americans are taxed more AND have to pay for insurance? And then you still have to pay copays? I don’t think “dur dur me taxes!” is actually the strong argument you think it is. And wait times are no longer (or in fact are shorter) in many countries with universal healthcare. But you know what’s longer? Life expectancies.
American here.
Just checked my latest paystub. My taxes are $405 per WEEK.
Good to know I’m getting such a bang for my buck.
And by bang, the military just got a few more bullets for war out of me.
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