• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    The answer is to join revolutionary org

    Why? When is the revolution going to happen? Where and when are we supposed to gather?

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      18 days ago

      I already answered the why. The where and when depends on organization, right now orgs aren’t as strong as they need to be, hence the importance of joining. The where is wherever your local org gathers, the when is whenever they meet and based on what they need you to do.

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        18 days ago

        These organizations have been around for decades, yes? Seems like there’s never going to be a when.

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          18 days ago

          That’s the same logic as saying there’s never going to be a cure for cancer because research has been done for decades.

          As Capitalism gets older, it trends towards monopolization, increasingly complex production methods take increasing amounts of investment to compete, killing the ability of smaller competitors to exist. The Rate of Profit shrinks the less human labor is involved with production, which is only temporarily countered by consolidation, even further monopolization! Wealth concentrates in fewer and fewer hands, Capitalism reaches a moribund stage.

          What is undeniable is that this disparity is increasing further and further, and monopolization is increasing further and further. The revolutionary potential of the Proletariat is held at bay through further exploitation of the Global South, which appears to be weakening over time.

          While nobody can name a date, I find it even harder to believe that someone could meaningfully believe that the trends I listed are going to reverse themselves and have Capitalism last forever.

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            18 days ago

            Except lots of cancers now have cures, and there are vaccines for others, so no it isn’t.

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              18 days ago

              Yes, and there have been successful Socialist revolutions, you’re only weakening your point.

              Do you believe the remaining cancers will never be cured because they currently aren’t?

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                18 days ago

                Successful ones? Which country is currently a socialist one? Where do the workers control the means of production?

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                    18 days ago

                    The workers do not control the means of production in any of those nations. You’re just lying now.