Roughly $11.1 trillion has been wiped away from the U.S. stock market since Jan. 17, the Friday before President Donald Trump took the oath of office and began his second term, according to data from Dow Jones Market Data.

Some $6.6 trillion of that figure was lost on Thursday and Friday alone — the largest two-day wipeout of shareholder value on record, Dow Jones data showed.

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    We’re entering Once in a Lifetime Recession #5. Buckle up folks. The feds up shits creek and has been since COVID, so no cash bailouts are coming anytime soon. This should be a fun one!

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        There’s more people who don’t have investments than there are that do. That includes 401k. Welcome to the poor people’s club.

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        Dude how many of the 49% of USA citizens who can’t even handle a 1k USD emergency spend have stocks or options

        How many of the 120 million people who have feared for years that they won’t get to enjoy their social security have stocks or options

        Because that’s the regular people

        Are you even reading yourself

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          401ks are invested. People losing their retirement funds. I personally don’t have any because I had to use mine up last time I was between jobs for a year, but many innocent people who aren’t rich and voted against Trump are being hurt as well.

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          Millions of people have 401k plans through their employers and have had them for years and are counting on them to live when they retire.

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          Well over 49% of usa Americans make enough to save a thousand dollars . Many are just that bad at managing money. Part of why pensions are important over 401ks.

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      Unfortunately I sincerely doubt a lot of them have retirement savings of any significance. There’s a reason Red States are a bigger draw on federal money than Blue States. But if there’s any consolation, once the food prices start hitting again they’ll take notice.

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        My MAGA friends on Facebook are yelling about “buying opportunities”.

        Where is that buying money coming from? I got none myself.

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          Just as well as this sure as hell isn’t a buying opportunity, some indexes are only at 6 month lows. We’ve barely begun loses wise - 12% off all time highs on the S&P if I recall right, 50% is realistic in my mind

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    Wow, $11 trillion is a lot. Really puts the $36 trillion sitting liquid in offshore tax havens into perspective (yet seems to be missing from every conversation about money.)

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      I know your right in saying people vote like Trump was the conservative, but Harris was really the conservative. Trump was the populist autocratic. thinking the GOP is the conservative party is crazy to me. They haven’t been in a long ass time. You want status quo and security for your money and livelyhood? Don’t vote for the populist who has ‘‘ideas’’ about how the country should REALLY be ran.

      That’s how you get Pol Pot shutting down food imports because he wanted higher domestic food production, you know BEFORE they could make enough food to feed everyone without the imports. All the other autocrat or populist that instantly rammed a country into the ground also had a cult that made them entirely delusional.

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        Amen you right. America is so far right wing, thats why any small help for the common worker or man they all scream socialism or communism.

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        That’s how you get Pol Pot shutting down food imports because he wanted higher domestic food production, you know BEFORE they could make enough food to feed everyone without the imports.

        This really is exactly what trump is doing. He’s slinging tariffs around like that will spur US industries (and as a petty attempt at being a strongman) and farming but giving those industries zero lead time, and on top of that, the tariffs he imposed are going to affect all of the materials and machinery those industries would need to ramp up their production. And on true insulated tyrant fashion he just makes a declaration and then it’s everyone else’s problem to deal with.

        Dude’s a fucking idiot.

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          Lose 75 out of a 100 billion? Still plenty of money to consolidate failing businesses and buy real estate for cheap.

          Can’t afford it? Too big to fail, government loans and bailouts.

          This has happened before and the wealthy just get more in the end.

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      It was projection once again. It turns out being anti-woke is indeed the path to poverty

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    so weird to be cheering for our own demise, but is it really our own demise? i don’t own stocks. do you? and where does 11 trillion actually go? to another country’s market? fiat currency is so weird. it’s almost as if it’s all just smoke and mirrors that don’t actually reflect reality. did anything physically change since dumptwat announced tariffs? capitalism just seems like a giant lie divorced from reality. let’s burn it all down.

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        No actually. My job doesn’t offer one. Many people either are in the same position where their job doesn’t offer retirement benefits or they’re not paying into it because they need every last cent they can spare.

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          Turns out the thing about people not having 500 USD in their accounts was real after all

          People are just realizing that they were not cooked, just merely marinating

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      The value went away, not actual money. Say you own a pair of Jordan’s original shoes worn playing for the bulls, and he shows up drunk on a tv show and spends an hour crapping all over the bulls. You still own the shoes, but they will be worth less if you try to sell them.

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      In terms of where the money foes its quite easily. The majority will just evaporate. A lot of people and company’s may shift their invested money to European (or somewhere else) companys whichay rise a bit in value, but the majority of the money is just gone. The value of a company is a mix of how profitable they are and a lot of how much people think a company will be profitable in the future and therefore are investing into it (its like the typical production and demand thing. If more people want to buy something it rises in value).

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        where the money foes its quite easily. The majority will just evaporate.

        the thing that didn’t exist in the first place evaporated. that doesn’t sound weird to you?

        also “how much people think a company will be profitable”… you just described a confidence game and gambling.

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          It is like you said. Its artificial value. Its value generated, by how much people are willing to pay for a share of it. And as you rightfully realised, its basically gambling. You can make predictions based on the current trend (what ever trend it may be),but its still gambling.

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      28 September 2007 S&P 500 was $1526 per share

      27 February 2009 it was $735

      31 January 2025 it was $6040

      Today it is $5074

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        Ok, so 2008 was a 52% loss in almost a year and a half.

        Right now it’s only a 16% loss in a little over 2 months.

        Someone far smarter than I am could maybe figure out the monthly decline percentage and compare 2008 losses vs now. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a shitload of money, but it doesn’t look like the stock market is anywhere close to reaching 2008 levels of loss…yet.

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            Ahhh so this is even worse than I thought because we haven’t even seen the effects of the tariffs yet and probably won’t for a while.

            Too. Much. Winning.

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          What were the first few months like in 08? I was only 13 and already in poverty so I honestly never noticed

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            In my experience I was in the middle of a transition at work. A company was buying the contract of all the other contract companies and the way they did it was shady as hell. We had to sign new contract agreements and had I not signed the agreement I most likely wouldn’t have been able to file unemployment and finding a job would have been impossible.

            I stayed in that job way too long because of fear and the devil you know vs the devil you don’t. I worked at that job and company for almost 10 more years because I liked my immediate boss but despised the bullshit the company was doing. It was not good for my mental health.

            Had 2008 not happened, there was no way I was signing that new contract. Many people didn’t and struggled for a bit finding new jobs. My mental health most likely would have been better. But hindsight is 20/20

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    Let’s see if he can make that number $111 Trillion lost by the end of May 2025.

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      I mean, to be fair, most of the genocide already happened before election day under Biden, but yes, there will definitely be more as long as the AIPAC bribes keep flowing-- and no one is talking about shutting those down. I believe the last person (JFK) to try to deal with this by relisting AIPAC as a foreign agency was assassinated shortly afterward. RFK also tried and he was also killed.

      Which is nothing but a coincidence I’m sure, the zionists would never do something like that. And christians in the US are close friends and allies of Israelis, right.

      https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-761490

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        So… “to be fair” what you’re claiming, is that there’s little genocide left for Trump to commit, and then- a bunch of conspiracy theories.

        It’s a damn good thing you people argue so diligently on the side of reality. It really helps drive that batshit insane ideology of yours home.

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            Trump could open the doors of hell and it would still be no excuse for having voted for evil.

            Do you view “evil” as a binary value or a numerical value that can be counted?

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          So… “to be fair” what you’re claiming, is that there’s little genocide left for Trump to commit

          Thats a good demonstration of strawmanning. Putting up a contrived BS argument then knocking it down. Come on, can’t you do better than that?
          Thats just lazy.

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            I’m not the one that said it. The onus is on you to state your point in a way that makes sense. And what you said, is that:

            “most of the genocide already happened before election day under Biden.”

            If you want to make a straw man by accusing me of making a straw man, be my guest. But that won’t change the original argument, nor will it change the fact that it seems others agree with me on this.

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              I literally quoted you, and you did not quote me. So now you’re just lying. Time for a username block.

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                Literal quote….

                “most of the genocide already happened before election day under Biden.”

                • you literally said this. But if it helps to use a more direct and unequivocal approach:

                If you are confused by what you’re seeing, that is a screenshot of your actual words.

                And- blocked or not, I think this needed to be said so that anyone unfortunate enough to have to interact with you, might come across this conversion in an attempt to make sense of… you,

                …and it helps illustrate to them exactly what they’re dealing with.

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        already happened

        Watching the ‘genocide Joe’ crowd cope with the fact they supported the turbo genocide candidate will never not be funny to me (In the grim irony kind of way).

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          The genocide Joe crowd think the Israel/Palestine war started October 2023. They aren’t very smart.

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          I’m always a bit fascinated that theres so few of us that see it this way. The killings definitely happened, the US definitely helped. Seems pretty factual. And yet the pushback on these facts with the US crowd is extreme and seemingly very emotional for the pro zionist crowd-- which is not in line with what the rest of the world thinks.

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          I’m not sure why you refuse to hold him and his administration accountable. Genocide Joe is an apt name for someone that chose to give more importance to genocide then he did to representing his voters and this country in general.

          They sabotaged their own election so Israel can break child death records. He could have simply told Israel to fuck off. I’d rather blame them then normal people that felt conflicted about genocide of all things.

          Holding them accountable is also the only way we get real change.

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        I mean no disrespect, because we are writing sentences that we never intended to write, but Jesus Christ, “most of the genocide already happened (…) under Biden”. It’s utterly depressing. I’m really disappointed that American citizens worked very hard for this to happen, but it feels also like a consequence of something bigger, as if there was a bipartisan dictatorship or something even deeper, in which parties are just knights or bishops.