• Rose Thorne(She/Her)@lemm.ee
    9·
    4 months ago

    As we used to say, “MMORPG means Many Men Online Role-playing Girls”.

    Which has went in a couple different directions, looking back.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          I genuinely wonder whether generation of people who played female avatars in MMOs to get free stuff has put the seed of TERFdom and assorted other anti-trans stereotypes into a generation of people’s brains.

          • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 months ago

            Nah. transpanic jokes are way older then that. The reveal at the end of the first Ace Ventura movie is an example of that. Good thing the second movie is way better.

            If anything, guys playing as girls in MMOs would have softened the idea of trans people to a lot of people who would have never thought much about it.

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              4 months ago

              That’s… a good reason why when I watch Ace Ventura, I skip the first one and pretend there’s no third one.

              • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 months ago

                Honestly, even disregarding the reveal at the end of the first one, the second one is still better. It just takes the concept farther and has a better location. I don’t even think most people know there’s a third movie.

            • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
              0·
              4 months ago

              A lot of the 4chan-esque toxicity around trans people is some mix of taboo horniness and misogynist commoditization of femininity.

              I don’t think either encourage trans-inclusiveness. The very term “Trap” implies trans people are attempting to exploit other people through their presentation.

              • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 months ago

                I’ve always thought of “Trap” as cross dressing with malicious intent. Not term to describe trans people, but it’s not something I consider a hill worth dying on.

                My idea is that “cross dressing” MMO players are just seeding the idea gender non-conformity into the player base’s mind. Not that they’re pro-trans activists.

      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
        11·
        4 months ago

        On the internet, anyone who claims to be a woman is really a man. Anyone who claims to be a man is really a child. Anyone who claims to be a child is really an FBI agent.

  • seathru@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    3·
    4 months ago

    I can remember the Yahoo chat rooms of the 90’s. It’s always been doods cybering lesbian sex with each other.

    • BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org
      2·
      4 months ago

      I had a friend get a fucking voice changer just to keep the lies going when he did that in D&Donline. It still irritates me that it actually worked. Dude was rolling in gifts and invites.

      • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        4 months ago

        I am a happily being a guy but I identified with Samuel in that story more than I ever would have guessed would have been possible. I have always been jealous of how easy it is for women to make friends and how tender their friendship are. I have never gotten along with macho guys and multiple times in my life people thought I was gay (I am only attracted to women, I just want tender friendships like women have with each other)…

    • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
      1·
      4 months ago

      There are a few reasons I can think off:

      1. Trick people;
      2. Get items;
      3. egg Experimenting the thought of not being your current gender.

      But just like the anon described, it’s one of the first two.

      • nikaaa@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 months ago

        also some minor mental illnesses

        I don’t like to call it “mental illnesses” because it makes it look like it’s a property of the person; however, it is a property of society:

      • shneancy@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 months ago

        honestly when i was a kid i always picked male characters (despite being afab) because “the clothes looked better”, fast forward a couple of years, i transitioned to male and i realised i used video games as my main escape from worsening gender dysphoria

          • TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
            0·
            4 months ago

            Girls just have better clothes in general. I like clothes shopping with my daughter all the outfits and dresses are so cute and fun, theres so much variety! Clothes shopping for my son is such a bore :/

            For reference I am dad, and theyre both in elementary school.

            • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              4 months ago

              Men’s clothing has better pockets tho. We need to normalize big pockets on all clothing. Also normalize pink men’s clothing to make it less boring

        • AbsentBird@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          I knew a guy who used that exact same reasoning to play female characters. It’s funny how the way you want to look in a videogame can sort of tap into subconscious desires sometimes.

          “Obviously I couldn’t dress like that IRL because of gender rules, but since I can choose my gender in this game…”

          It’s sort of like The Button thought experiment.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
    11·
    4 months ago

    Eventually they’ll both think a little more deeply about why they “”“pretended”“” to be girls online. 🤔 😊

  • Suavevillain@lemmy.world
    0·
    4 months ago

    There is a bad bitch inside of all of us lowkey. But at least in RPGs I like to be a chick because I usually like the clothing options.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    0·
    4 months ago

    I feel like there are so many dudes who’d fall in love if only both parties were women, and that’s beautiful…

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
      1·
      4 months ago

      Why is that beautiful? Sounds pretty obvious to me. If some of my dude friends were actually women, I’d love to be in a relationship with them. They’re cool dudes.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        4 months ago

        I had someone tell me “He/Him Lesbians” were a thing recently and they weren’t referring to FTM Transguys either (Which I was relieved by as that would be a horribly offensive thing to call that crowd since a lesbian is a woman who exclusively is attracted to other women, and FTMs are NOT women.) Somedays I just don’t know if I’m getting too old and set in my ways or if the world has just lost the plot.

        These days I just kinda “nod” at things and go along with them even if I don’t agree or understand, within reason of course. (i’m not going to let anyone take fucking dieting advice from a breatharian)

        • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 months ago

          Unpopular opinion : once you start blurring the lines of what gender is, the straightness based definitions of things go out the window.

          An FTM and MTF relationship is something alright. None of my business.

          but, linguistically speaking, I don’t think straight as a label applies to it, even though it’s male + female.

          it ties into the difference between someone being pansexual, and bisexual.

      • Allero@lemmy.today
        0·
        4 months ago

        Seriously though

        The feminine (and, by extension, lesbian) is constantly portrayed in such a sweet and gentle way and masculine us always so rough that I can’t help but say “lesbian relationships to me, please”

        And I’m a guy.

        Where tf did we lose those cute gentle hetero relationships and representation? Okay there’s GFD, but barely anyone notices it and it’s strictly about women taking the lead and mostly sexual, which is only one side of the story.