• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    If you want to believe this, its on you to show us it. The entire thread obviously knows much more about whats going on in Israel and all we’ve gotten from you is your projection of how you wish things were.

    If this opposition to the Israeli led genocide exists within Israel show us.

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      2 months ago

      Sure, right after I show you how I don’t have dual loyalties to America and Israel, right? I have to show people that one all the time.

      Of course, a lot of times, they don’t believe me anyway.

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        You are making a claim for the existence of a thing. No one else made that claim. We are asking for evidence of that claim. I’ve looked for evidence. I am not finding any evidence of a “don’t genocide the Gazans” movement within Israel. I can find evidence outside of Israel.

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          I can find evidence outside of Israel

          Funny how you left out the whole Jewish diaspora part this time like you said before. Because you absolutely suggested that people like me are Israelis or even have some sort of opinion about Israel that should be weighted higher than any other non-Israeli.

          I want to make this absolutely clear to you:

          I am a Jew.
          I am not an Israeli.
          I have no affiliation to Israel.
          I have no Israeli relatives.
          I have never been and do not plan to go.
          I feel absolutely no allegiance or kinship or anything else to Israel and never have.
          I was born in Indiana.
          I have far more in common with a Palestinian-American born in Omaha than I do a Jewish Israeli born in Tel Aviv.

          Therefore: my stance on Israeli genocide is of equal weight to yours.

          So stop bringing up non-Israeli Jews as if they are of specific relevance to this issue.

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            2 months ago

            You like, really need to go touch some grass.

            You are asking people to support your claim that there is an extant anti-genocide movement within Israel. You’ve done it repeatedly throughout this entire post.

            YOU are making a claim and I’m asking for your evidence.

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              And I am telling you that I have no reason to give anything to someone who thinks about me and other non-Israeli Jews in such a bigoted way no matter how many times they ask.

              Sorry, you lost that when you decided I have dual loyalties.

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                2 months ago

                You are just making up the idea that anything any one here has said is biggoted. Its completely disconnected from reality

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                  2 months ago

                  I will quote you again:

                  All the Jewish led criticism I’ve found of Israels actions appears to be coming from the diaspora. I can’t find sources from within Israel calling the Israeli campaign a genocide or calling for it to stop.

                  And I will tell you again: I am not an Israeli. I have no affiliation to Israel. Stop associating me with Israel. It’s bigoted. More to the point, it’s a lie.

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                    2 months ago

                    What in the chicken-fired chuckle fuck are you talking about?

                    I’m asking you to support something you’ve said with evidence. I’m telling you that I’ve looked for the thing you claim exists and I can’t find it. You have continuously repeated a claim about there being an anti-genocide movement within Israel that requires accounting for. I’ve looked for this movement in media and within my friends and family in the region. I can’t find evidence for it. You claim it exists. Show me your evidence or shut the fuck up.