• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You are making a claim for the existence of a thing. No one else made that claim. We are asking for evidence of that claim. I’ve looked for evidence. I am not finding any evidence of a “don’t genocide the Gazans” movement within Israel. I can find evidence outside of Israel.

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      2 months ago

      I can find evidence outside of Israel

      Funny how you left out the whole Jewish diaspora part this time like you said before. Because you absolutely suggested that people like me are Israelis or even have some sort of opinion about Israel that should be weighted higher than any other non-Israeli.

      I want to make this absolutely clear to you:

      I am a Jew.
      I am not an Israeli.
      I have no affiliation to Israel.
      I have no Israeli relatives.
      I have never been and do not plan to go.
      I feel absolutely no allegiance or kinship or anything else to Israel and never have.
      I was born in Indiana.
      I have far more in common with a Palestinian-American born in Omaha than I do a Jewish Israeli born in Tel Aviv.

      Therefore: my stance on Israeli genocide is of equal weight to yours.

      So stop bringing up non-Israeli Jews as if they are of specific relevance to this issue.

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        2 months ago

        You like, really need to go touch some grass.

        You are asking people to support your claim that there is an extant anti-genocide movement within Israel. You’ve done it repeatedly throughout this entire post.

        YOU are making a claim and I’m asking for your evidence.

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          And I am telling you that I have no reason to give anything to someone who thinks about me and other non-Israeli Jews in such a bigoted way no matter how many times they ask.

          Sorry, you lost that when you decided I have dual loyalties.

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            2 months ago

            You are just making up the idea that anything any one here has said is biggoted. Its completely disconnected from reality

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              2 months ago

              I will quote you again:

              All the Jewish led criticism I’ve found of Israels actions appears to be coming from the diaspora. I can’t find sources from within Israel calling the Israeli campaign a genocide or calling for it to stop.

              And I will tell you again: I am not an Israeli. I have no affiliation to Israel. Stop associating me with Israel. It’s bigoted. More to the point, it’s a lie.

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                What in the chicken-fired chuckle fuck are you talking about?

                I’m asking you to support something you’ve said with evidence. I’m telling you that I’ve looked for the thing you claim exists and I can’t find it. You have continuously repeated a claim about there being an anti-genocide movement within Israel that requires accounting for. I’ve looked for this movement in media and within my friends and family in the region. I can’t find evidence for it. You claim it exists. Show me your evidence or shut the fuck up.

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                  Once again, I have no interest in backing up my claims to someone being bigoted against me. If someone else wishes to ask me, fine. You have revealed yourself with your comment… and if you wish to claim your comment is not bigoted, please explain my association to Israel.

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                    2 months ago

                    No one is being bigoted here and all of your whinging is projection.

                    You are just using that as an excuse to create a narrative you wish existed. And I wish it existed too. I wish there was an anti-genocide movement in Israel. I wish there was an opposition within Israel to work with and organize with. I can’t find anyone not-outside of Israel who appears to hold the view that Israel is conducting a genocide and that they need to stop.

                    The fact is that you just made shit up repeatedly to pretend things were the way you wanted them to be and have continued to proceed in-spite of several other commenters with far, far more knowledge and experience on these matters showing you that you are just talking out of your ass.