I remember reading that when national parks tried to make a ‘bear-proof’ trashcan, they found that there was a larger overlap between the smartest bear and the stupidest human to make a viable product.
I feel like it’s a similar situation here. The smartest kid and the stupidest adult are far more similar than we’d like to admit.
Tbh I find it much more surprising that there’s an overlap of bears and stupid people than I do smart kids and dumb adults.
I’ve met an unfortunate amount of people that would struggle to dump water out of their boots with the instructions written on the bottom of the sole.
Bears can be trained to drive cars and communicate through various means, it’s thought they may be as smart as great apes like gorillas. This is why they were a choice circus animal for a long time.
Yes, this should be terrifying information.
They also shit in the woods & wipe their asses with bunny rabbits.
DON’T BELIEVE THE CHARMIN PROPAGANDA
is that a point for or against bears?
Depends on your bunny rabbit stance, I reckon.
Unfortunately for the bears, it’s duck season, not wabbit season!
bunny rabbits are a renewable resource.
I mean… a kid would probably do the same, given the chance, right?
I’m going with For, definitely a point For bears.
A bear on my road has learned to open cars by using the door handle. Pretty amazing. It got into mine, ate something sugary, and left with no damage other than mud absolutely everywhere.
Now I lock my car doors at night with respect for this boss bear.
The right to arm bears…
You can’t just get my hopes up and not give us a video of a bear driving a car!!
… people that would struggle to dump water out of their boots with the instructions written on the bottom of the sole.
I love that analogy and need to commit it to heart. XD
That last line is an absolutely brilliant insult. Love it.
Why does dumping water out of boots have instructions? Isn’t it like dumping water out of any other container?
It’s just a common way to call someone an idiot where I’m from 😅
It’s less idiocy and more laziness. Any amount of inconvenience is too much for a lot of humans, unfortunately.
I think it’s more like: the maturest kids and the most immature adults.
Yeah smart kids can be very immature
Side note: the National Park Service has an awesome team running their social media accounts. Their posts are always hilarious and informative.
Funny, I came here to make the exact same analogy. I totally agree - a mature kid and an immature adult have a lot of overlap.
Nice try little Timmy, but I won’t be telling you how to pass as an adult.
Because you are a kid and you don’t know but are pretending to be an adult. Nice try!
That’s what a kid pretending to be an adult would say.
When I was your age, no kids did that, 'cause we had no damn internets back then. We had to actually walk outside to talk with others.
Tell me more about this “outside”. Can I get it on Amazon?
Everyone knows you hop on another kid’s shoulders and put on a trenchcoat, fedora, and sunglasses and gave the name Robert Businessman.
They like people like Lenin and Stalin.
It’s a wakeup call for a lot of young people when they start to recognize the absurdity of anti-communist propaganda, but a lot of kids swing too far the other direction and figure all the bad things they’ve ever heard about history’s worst communist leaders are lies.
It doesn’t mean that Communism is uniquely bad, but these men were violent tyrants who don’t share values with most mainstream western leftists today.
Some never grow up and say dumb shit like that radical gender expression was common in the USSR or something…
Extreme/insane positions on everything. Not just one or two insane positions, not just political extremism; when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING. No nuance allowed. And it has to be fully sincere, otherwise you are dealing with a Jreg.
There are milder versions of this, but I have rarely met a child that didn’t have a strongly held insane belief formed from their limited experiences. My favorite was a kid who told me that eating pasta supports fascism because it comes from Italy, so loving Italian products means you support Mussolini. Pizza is fine, though, because that’s American.
Uuuuuugh. I remember being so black and white, there wasn’t any middle ground on anything. It was exhausting.
I’m just glad I decided to go full moral relativism right away back then. It was a good way to speedrun maturity, although I did maintain some kooky beliefs into early adulthood such as
- “if you are not multilingual you can’t be a good person, and the more languages you speak the better of a person you are”
- “The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”
- “The age of consent should be 25.”
- “Evil people can be good functioning members of society, so we shouldn’t discriminate against people who hold evil beliefs as long as they are nice to others.”
It was exhausting. Opposite reason from you, there was only middle ground, no black and white allowed. But it came from the same mental place. Pride, arrogance, nieveté.
The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”
Ah, I see what you mean, anyone who disagrees with you is a child. America is a one party state, just in typical american extravagance they have two of them.
Glad we grew out of it.
to go full moral relativism right away
Jesus, so you still think the mature stance was “maybe Hitler wasn’t morally wrong”? Bad news, you still have a lot of maturing to do. Like a fucking phenomenal amount. Just because your beliefs as a child were even more baseless doesn’t mean you’ve moved to a sensible position.
Thats not what I meant, but I can see why you read what I wrote that way. I personally think “There is no such thing as Truth” was a better place to mature away from than “I’ve been on this earth for 12 whole years, so I’m grown enough to know what the truth is”. I also think you missed the part where I don’t believe any of the moral relativism stuff anymore. My young adulthood was nearly 10 years ago, even the clooge I listed at the bottom is loooong gone.
Ok, I see what you mean, the way you wrote it made it seem like you considered the process of becoming a moral relativist to be speed running maturity. Well done for growing out of it, then.
See, this right here is why I love you folks on Hexbear. Every good-faith argument can end as a good-faith argument instead of devolving into screeching. That’s pretty rare on the internet.
If you’re going to lecture about “maturing”, then maybe don’t start by jumping to conclusions based on the first sentence.
Actually I jumped to conclusions based on the whole comment, as it makes them seem like they consider becoming a moral relativist to be speeding through maturity.
Quite the personality analysis from a five sentence comment.
I’ll bite. What’s a Jreg?
A youtuber who was relatively popular with enlightened centerists around 2019. Links so you can look on and cringe:
- A video where he regurgitates right-wing talking points directed at his cat in the name of “satire”
- An actually funny video about top 10 lists
- The video that made his channel really take off
- “Should we dehumanize our political opponents?”
- Man-made satire beyond mortal comprehension.
He also would attend rallies and spout political gibberist
jreg is pretty based i think. His content is satire, for sure. A lot of his recent stuff has been delving into more philosophical shit though.
Dude literally doxxed himself and asked people to kill him (in lore)
I was a big fan of jreg pre-2020, but after giving up mainstream social media I currently believe that only cowards, frauds, and master satirists feel the need to use irony. It’s arrogant to think you are the third, and I dont think Jreg is either. I think he is a coward.
ah, i think you should catch up a little bit on jreg then. He’s had a similar story arc lmao.
He’s “unironically Jregular now”
He’s actually leftist I think, and was parodying centrists too
If I remember his coming out video, he’s a Democratic Socialist. Which, if the political compass made sense, would be just right of center. But I guess thinking people deserve rights is inherently left-wing to Americans lol
He’s Canadian
You mean We Have America At Home?
jreg is a youtube who (ironically?) claims to be anti-centrist, meaning taking an extreme stance on everything, regardless of which extreme.
jreg is a youtube
Found the adult
Ha ha that’s hilarious 😂 such a cherry pick too
This. This is how I pick out if I’m arguing with an adult or not
yeah pretty much this. Dealing with one right now, people are funny.
Excessive edginess
It’s important to differentiate it from like. Having extreme opinions. There are plenty of adults with extreme opinions and they are a whole other conversation. – But only people under a certain age (not strictly kid, mind, though most people have shaken this off by their mid 20s) have a penchant to arrive at extreme opinions specifically because they are “edgy” and “cool”.
This tends to also come with a particularly needless hostile attitude, where they very quickly and easily start with the verbal abuse.
Very confidently wrong, poor reading comprehension, poor grammar, limited vocabulary, emoji gore, catch phrase/pop culture quotes/talking points repeated with no comprehension of what they’re saying, clearly not aware of how many things in life work, religious regurgitation while being surprised everyone doesn’t agree with them. Very easily impressed with basic factual statements, clearly thinking confidence is the main thing that makes someone correct. Thinks their mom telling they they are handsome is a valid point. Idk, that’s all I got.
very confidently wrong
Lmao dude that’s just people in general especially on forums
There’s also nothing wrong with people learning new info, no matter how simple it may seem. That’s kind of a pretentious/egotistical way to operate.
Most of this list is actually pretty garbage. Emojis? Using slang/catch phrases? This is basic social stuff.
You😆are🤓🤣wrong🤬😡! 💯💯👁️🍑👁️
Got one
What I wrote – Very easily impressed with basic factual statements
What you think it means – there’s something wrong with people who are learning new things.
Does ‘‘basic factual statements’’ mean ‘‘new information that someone is just now learning’’. Can it also apply to information they already know, or believe is true? Can it also be referring to basic knowledge nearly everyone knows?
Does ‘being very easily impressed’ include a situation where someone reacts to information in a typical fashion? Does it exclude adults learning or recognizing factual information and responding with a simple agreement, such as ‘yeah that’s true’? Or is this an indication that an overreacting response is the dead giveaway?
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Did the sentance make a claim something is wrong with being a child?
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Did the sentence claim that learning new information is likewise something wrong?
Please write one 5 sentance paragraph explaining your opinion on the above two numbered questions. Proofreading will not be necessary.
Jfc no thanks bye dude
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Depending on what you meant by “very easily impressed with basic factual statements” it could go either way. I’m an adult and I’m happy to admit I don’t know a lot things, sometimes I’ve been stunned that what I believed was totally wrong and all it took was some to give me a basic fact to make me realise.
I’m an adult
🧐
+1
Ever since I was a wee flipflop I always liked to learn from my friends (and yes I was that gullible naive friend) but now even in my 20s it’s still fun to learn outside a classroom. I don’t have to worry about my terrible memory not keeping all the info, if it sticks it sticks
Fun fact: Australia is wider than the diameter of the moon.
Ankther fun fact! The Netherlands is smaller than all of Europe combined!
Happy Cake Day!
Bonus: can also be applied to boomers.
“Know why the call them baby boomers? Because all it takes is one little prick to their egos and boom! You’ve gotta baby!”
Boomers are just decrepit toddlers at this point anyway
Could be a new gameshow: Boomer or Toddler
By these standards, most of my adult relatives are actually children.
It’s like I tell my kids, an adult is just a child who got old. It’s also why a lot of cultures have a concept of adulthood that has nothing to do with reaching sexual maturity alone.
This is like reading a reverse horoscope - you’ve just thrown as many negative traits as you could think of at the wall, knowing at least a few will stick.
Nothing on your list couldn’t also apply to an adult, especially those most privileged and entitled in society.
So every boomer on facebook. Got it.
Those first two…and a couple others, also apply to a lot of adults I have had political conversations with the past several years…
Huh
Hexbear is an 8/10 on this scale
They are on TikTok and not Lemmy
Specifically in games: constantly repeating the flavor of the month insults. Typically some influencer comes up with a funny insult then for the rest of the month some kids use that one singular insult for every situation
Quit yapping 💀
Vertical filming, putting music into videos when you could just use silence
slang mostly, I mod a strictly 18+ space and recently someone used the word “skeet”, and would you believe it, they were a minor
Skeet? Really? Lil Jon’s “Get Low” came out 22 years ago.
Now if they had said “Skibidi” that would be a different story.
Tbh, no. I expected they would be about 32 using the word “skeet.” I’d expect the youth of today to say “cummies” or some other abject disgrace of a word lol.
Well the exact phrase used was “can’t wait to skeet on your face with [my dick]” so
and I’ve seen grown adults well over into 25+ saying “cummies” lmao
One correction, adult in age alone* lol.
No actual “grown adult” says cummies (outside of “for the meme” of course), those are large gross 25yo children.
nah I wouldn’t gatekeep adulthood like that lol
Usually I’d agree, I’ve been called a kid for a lot less myself, but in this case the subject is a word more grating than the classic “Moist.”
Awww skeet skeet mutha fuckaaaa
I aint reading allat💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Like if gay is bad and u a sigma (YT shorts raised me)
👇For me personally the first tell is when they are morally loading every statement in an argument and are unable to engage with a topic directly. Adults should be able to discuss or debate certain topics on the value of the arguments alone without feeling pressured to include a declarative virtue signal in every clause.
“debate me” kids are another stereotype on the internet though. The idea that ideas should be entertained and discussed for the sake of it and come without implications attached is just another form of edgyness. It’s another thing that often goes away with age or with touching grass. I know because I was one of them. Now I understand that the fact itself of discussing something publicly has moral implications.
Yea, I agree. That’s why I used the word discuss because when the debate-bro mindset kicks in you’re definitely dealing with an angsty teenager (also the constant invocation of logical fallacies).
I don’t know. I’ve had this issue with some adults as well.
Me too. But in my view they are not fully developed adults and still have some emotional intelligence left to grow.
Maybe I’m not understanding it correctly. Could you maybe provide a small example? :)
Usually when discussing a heated topic (politics, gun control-take your pick) and trying to discuss the facts of the matter in a neutral manner but the response comes back with every phrase super charged with morally loaded words. Examples of a conversation I had recently (emphasis mine):
sure as hell isn’t PANDERING! What the fuck is wrong with you??
Typical apologist tactic
PRETENDING to care about the brutal slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians
deflecting to your conspiracy theory
shows that YOU don’t care enough about Palestinian lives
It’s very pronounced on this site for some reason. I don’t know why.
I assume the quoted part is all one comment from the other party?
Just asking because the formatting looks a bit like conversation.Besides that, yeah it reads really immature and emotionally charged to the moon and back.
Crypto bros who follow ultra distorted stoicism (the only good philosophy is the ones made when slavery was normalised) that believe everyone else is unaware of what very basic knowledge they world they just learned that day.
Extensive use of emojis and abbreviations is a good indicator.
I wish this were true, but not really. I’ve seen 40+ year olds doing exactly this. Why, you may ask? They grew up with Nokia phones.
T9 gang where your hands at
tbh idk 😆
Lol k 🤣
I’ve actually found that emojis are more of a GenZ and millennial thing. GenA doesn’t tend to use them, because there’s no novelty for them. Emojis were already invented by the time GenA was starting to use technology, so they’re not a new or exciting thing.
Conversely, excessive use of grammar in casual Internet discourse indicates a tight-arse
My fellow internaut, I am keenly afraid I will have to disagree. Some of us old folks were raised by less than stellar parents that whacked our knuckles whenever they detected a minimum deviation of perfect grammar.
The wake of the ordeal stuck with us forever.
Ok, more seriously: you type how you type, and as long as you are not trying to impose your own rules on others, you should be fine.
having said that i despise the total lack of punctuation drives me really really nuts why cant you use at least commas periods and question marks you fucks
I don’t think there is a “dead giveaway”. Plenty of kids can pass as adults online and plenty of adults seem like kids online. And sometimes with stuff like word usage/grammar/etc you can’t tell if it’s a child or someone who doesn’t speak English very well or maybe an English-speaking adult who happens to type like that. There’s a lot of different people in the world.
Yeah seriously, every time someone makes a generalization online “that subreddit is all 12 year olds anyway”, “r/teenagers is mainly grown me”, it really bothers me because no, you’re just overconfident in estimating people’s ages from text
I imagine that part of it comes down to motivation. I pretended to be an adult on a special-interest forum when I was twelve years old because I needed an escape from my miserable existence. At that time, I had no control over my life and every morning I woke up meant I had a new chance for traumatic shit to happen. I desperately needed to be someone else, so I took my time, researched shit, and avoided any conversation where I might be outed. I’m sure I didn’t fool everyone, but I got some shocked responses when I went back as an adult and owned up to it.
Kids doing it for the authority boost or just as a childish fancy will be easier to spot. Kids doing it as a coping mechanism for their horrible lives will probably blend in a lot better.
I have found the gen xers are the WORST at texting and writing in general. At least the ones I know.
I would die without autocorrect. I grew up with “mom, how do I spell (word)” and getting “sound it out”, witch werks grate in Inglish…
I grew up getting “Look it up!” and I still can’t spell for shit.
I HATED that one…look it up in the Dictionary…sure ok, let me look up a word I can’t spell …ffs!
I can’t get over ironically using stupid lingo, without being good at presenting it as ironic use…so I often seem like a child. I am certainly bad at forming sentences that are not stream of thought (with weird punctuation like parentheses containing clarification…like this…and overused ellipsis…)
It’s interesting to meet someone else who also struggles with an overuse of parentheses and ellipses (I didn’t know what they were called, thanks for that!).
This is a complete shot in the dark, but do you also happen to be on the spectrum? (I have nothing to base this on expect my theory that overclarification could be more common among neurodivergent people)
Edit: ellipsis -> ellipses
Add to your knowledge- they are ellipses. A single … is an ellipsis. Many words that end in “is” are pluralized as “es”
This is pronounced like iss versus eeze.
