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    I remember reading that when national parks tried to make a ‘bear-proof’ trashcan, they found that there was a larger overlap between the smartest bear and the stupidest human to make a viable product.

    I feel like it’s a similar situation here. The smartest kid and the stupidest adult are far more similar than we’d like to admit.

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      Tbh I find it much more surprising that there’s an overlap of bears and stupid people than I do smart kids and dumb adults.

      I’ve met an unfortunate amount of people that would struggle to dump water out of their boots with the instructions written on the bottom of the sole.

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        Bears can be trained to drive cars and communicate through various means, it’s thought they may be as smart as great apes like gorillas. This is why they were a choice circus animal for a long time.

        Yes, this should be terrifying information.

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        … people that would struggle to dump water out of their boots with the instructions written on the bottom of the sole.

        I love that analogy and need to commit it to heart. XD

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        Why does dumping water out of boots have instructions? Isn’t it like dumping water out of any other container?

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        It’s less idiocy and more laziness. Any amount of inconvenience is too much for a lot of humans, unfortunately.

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      I think it’s more like: the maturest kids and the most immature adults.

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      Side note: the National Park Service has an awesome team running their social media accounts. Their posts are always hilarious and informative.

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      Funny, I came here to make the exact same analogy. I totally agree - a mature kid and an immature adult have a lot of overlap.

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    Extreme/insane positions on everything. Not just one or two insane positions, not just political extremism; when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING. No nuance allowed. And it has to be fully sincere, otherwise you are dealing with a Jreg.

    There are milder versions of this, but I have rarely met a child that didn’t have a strongly held insane belief formed from their limited experiences. My favorite was a kid who told me that eating pasta supports fascism because it comes from Italy, so loving Italian products means you support Mussolini. Pizza is fine, though, because that’s American.

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      Uuuuuugh. I remember being so black and white, there wasn’t any middle ground on anything. It was exhausting.

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        I’m just glad I decided to go full moral relativism right away back then. It was a good way to speedrun maturity, although I did maintain some kooky beliefs into early adulthood such as

        • “if you are not multilingual you can’t be a good person, and the more languages you speak the better of a person you are”
        • “The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”
        • “The age of consent should be 25.”
        • “Evil people can be good functioning members of society, so we shouldn’t discriminate against people who hold evil beliefs as long as they are nice to others.”

        It was exhausting. Opposite reason from you, there was only middle ground, no black and white allowed. But it came from the same mental place. Pride, arrogance, nieveté.

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          The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”

          Ah, I see what you mean, anyone who disagrees with you is a child. America is a one party state, just in typical american extravagance they have two of them.

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          to go full moral relativism right away

          Jesus, so you still think the mature stance was “maybe Hitler wasn’t morally wrong”? Bad news, you still have a lot of maturing to do. Like a fucking phenomenal amount. Just because your beliefs as a child were even more baseless doesn’t mean you’ve moved to a sensible position.

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            Thats not what I meant, but I can see why you read what I wrote that way. I personally think “There is no such thing as Truth” was a better place to mature away from than “I’ve been on this earth for 12 whole years, so I’m grown enough to know what the truth is”. I also think you missed the part where I don’t believe any of the moral relativism stuff anymore. My young adulthood was nearly 10 years ago, even the clooge I listed at the bottom is loooong gone.

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              Ok, I see what you mean, the way you wrote it made it seem like you considered the process of becoming a moral relativist to be speed running maturity. Well done for growing out of it, then.

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                See, this right here is why I love you folks on Hexbear. Every good-faith argument can end as a good-faith argument instead of devolving into screeching. That’s pretty rare on the internet.

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            If you’re going to lecture about “maturing”, then maybe don’t start by jumping to conclusions based on the first sentence.

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              Actually I jumped to conclusions based on the whole comment, as it makes them seem like they consider becoming a moral relativist to be speeding through maturity.

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    Excessive edginess

    It’s important to differentiate it from like. Having extreme opinions. There are plenty of adults with extreme opinions and they are a whole other conversation. – But only people under a certain age (not strictly kid, mind, though most people have shaken this off by their mid 20s) have a penchant to arrive at extreme opinions specifically because they are “edgy” and “cool”.

    This tends to also come with a particularly needless hostile attitude, where they very quickly and easily start with the verbal abuse.

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    Very confidently wrong, poor reading comprehension, poor grammar, limited vocabulary, emoji gore, catch phrase/pop culture quotes/talking points repeated with no comprehension of what they’re saying, clearly not aware of how many things in life work, religious regurgitation while being surprised everyone doesn’t agree with them. Very easily impressed with basic factual statements, clearly thinking confidence is the main thing that makes someone correct. Thinks their mom telling they they are handsome is a valid point. Idk, that’s all I got.

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      very confidently wrong

      Lmao dude that’s just people in general especially on forums

      There’s also nothing wrong with people learning new info, no matter how simple it may seem. That’s kind of a pretentious/egotistical way to operate.

      Most of this list is actually pretty garbage. Emojis? Using slang/catch phrases? This is basic social stuff.

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        What I wrote – Very easily impressed with basic factual statements

        What you think it means – there’s something wrong with people who are learning new things.

        Does ‘‘basic factual statements’’ mean ‘‘new information that someone is just now learning’’. Can it also apply to information they already know, or believe is true? Can it also be referring to basic knowledge nearly everyone knows?

        Does ‘being very easily impressed’ include a situation where someone reacts to information in a typical fashion? Does it exclude adults learning or recognizing factual information and responding with a simple agreement, such as ‘yeah that’s true’? Or is this an indication that an overreacting response is the dead giveaway?

        1. Did the sentance make a claim something is wrong with being a child?

        2. Did the sentence claim that learning new information is likewise something wrong?

        Please write one 5 sentance paragraph explaining your opinion on the above two numbered questions. Proofreading will not be necessary.

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      Depending on what you meant by “very easily impressed with basic factual statements” it could go either way. I’m an adult and I’m happy to admit I don’t know a lot things, sometimes I’ve been stunned that what I believed was totally wrong and all it took was some to give me a basic fact to make me realise.

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        It’s like I tell my kids, an adult is just a child who got old. It’s also why a lot of cultures have a concept of adulthood that has nothing to do with reaching sexual maturity alone.

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      This is like reading a reverse horoscope - you’ve just thrown as many negative traits as you could think of at the wall, knowing at least a few will stick.

      Nothing on your list couldn’t also apply to an adult, especially those most privileged and entitled in society.

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      Those first two…and a couple others, also apply to a lot of adults I have had political conversations with the past several years…

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    Specifically in games: constantly repeating the flavor of the month insults. Typically some influencer comes up with a funny insult then for the rest of the month some kids use that one singular insult for every situation

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    slang mostly, I mod a strictly 18+ space and recently someone used the word “skeet”, and would you believe it, they were a minor

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      Skeet? Really? Lil Jon’s “Get Low” came out 22 years ago.

      Now if they had said “Skibidi” that would be a different story.

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      Tbh, no. I expected they would be about 32 using the word “skeet.” I’d expect the youth of today to say “cummies” or some other abject disgrace of a word lol.

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        Well the exact phrase used was “can’t wait to skeet on your face with [my dick]” so

        and I’ve seen grown adults well over into 25+ saying “cummies” lmao

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          One correction, adult in age alone* lol.

          No actual “grown adult” says cummies (outside of “for the meme” of course), those are large gross 25yo children.

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    For me personally the first tell is when they are morally loading every statement in an argument and are unable to engage with a topic directly. Adults should be able to discuss or debate certain topics on the value of the arguments alone without feeling pressured to include a declarative virtue signal in every clause.

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      “debate me” kids are another stereotype on the internet though. The idea that ideas should be entertained and discussed for the sake of it and come without implications attached is just another form of edgyness. It’s another thing that often goes away with age or with touching grass. I know because I was one of them. Now I understand that the fact itself of discussing something publicly has moral implications.

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        Yea, I agree. That’s why I used the word discuss because when the debate-bro mindset kicks in you’re definitely dealing with an angsty teenager (also the constant invocation of logical fallacies).

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        Me too. But in my view they are not fully developed adults and still have some emotional intelligence left to grow.

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            Usually when discussing a heated topic (politics, gun control-take your pick) and trying to discuss the facts of the matter in a neutral manner but the response comes back with every phrase super charged with morally loaded words. Examples of a conversation I had recently (emphasis mine):

            sure as hell isn’t PANDERING! What the fuck is wrong with you??

            Typical apologist tactic

            PRETENDING to care about the brutal slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians

            deflecting to your conspiracy theory

            shows that YOU don’t care enough about Palestinian lives

            It’s very pronounced on this site for some reason. I don’t know why.

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              I assume the quoted part is all one comment from the other party?
              Just asking because the formatting looks a bit like conversation.

              Besides that, yeah it reads really immature and emotionally charged to the moon and back.

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    Crypto bros who follow ultra distorted stoicism (the only good philosophy is the ones made when slavery was normalised) that believe everyone else is unaware of what very basic knowledge they world they just learned that day.

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      I wish this were true, but not really. I’ve seen 40+ year olds doing exactly this. Why, you may ask? They grew up with Nokia phones.

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      I’ve actually found that emojis are more of a GenZ and millennial thing. GenA doesn’t tend to use them, because there’s no novelty for them. Emojis were already invented by the time GenA was starting to use technology, so they’re not a new or exciting thing.

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      Conversely, excessive use of grammar in casual Internet discourse indicates a tight-arse

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        My fellow internaut, I am keenly afraid I will have to disagree. Some of us old folks were raised by less than stellar parents that whacked our knuckles whenever they detected a minimum deviation of perfect grammar.

        The wake of the ordeal stuck with us forever.

        Ok, more seriously: you type how you type, and as long as you are not trying to impose your own rules on others, you should be fine.

        having said that i despise the total lack of punctuation drives me really really nuts why cant you use at least commas periods and question marks you fucks