• Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    666·
    6 months ago

    Some years ago, Pussy Riot put out information on how to use Makeup to confound face detection algorithms.

    On an unrelated note: This is probably going to be blocked in ML because I used the word “pussy”. I wonder why that instance has a problem with me mentioning that word. Could it be perhaps the name of a feminist anarchist group activity resisting domestic Russian oppression? No, I’m sure that’s a coincidence.

    Edit: Ty to everyone who helped correct my misunderstanding. The feedback has been informative, but I’ll leave my comment as-is so people reading have context incase they also have misconceptions.

  • aname@lemmy.one
    25·
    6 months ago

    Turns out animals’ camouflage including background matching, disruptive coloration, shadow elimination, counter shading, counter illumination and others are there to prevent optical recognition.

    Who would have thunk.

  • cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee
    261·
    6 months ago

    I met a juggalo once and he was a racist Trump supporter who steal scrap metal from construction sites for meth money.

    • ZeroCool@vger.socialOPEnglish
      371·
      6 months ago

      That sucks. I worked with a few when I was younger and knew a couple others in high school too, and my experience was the opposite. They weren’t exactly Rhodes scholars lol, but they were open-minded, kind, and dependable colleagues. Juggalos have a reputation for being trashy, and it’s something they proudly embrace, but I’ve found them to be generally harmless. Unfortuantely, I think just about every fan base these days has to deal with its share of racist Trump supporters who steal scrap metal from construction sites for meth money…

      • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
        11·
        6 months ago

        My buddy and I were just talking about this. Juggalos get a lot of shit, but my experience is that they are one of the most accepting groups around. It doesn’t matter if you’re a PhD or are stealing copper out of abandoned houses, if you show up with some clown makeup and fire poi, juggalos are down to clown.

      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
        1·
        6 months ago

        Unfortuantely, I think just about every fan base these days has to deal with its share of racist Trump supporters who steal scrap metal from construction sites for meth money…

        If you live in the US (or UK) you live in a collapsing society being suffocated and held in place by neoliberal austerity politics that purposefully shuts down the possibility of any genuine systematic reform that isn’t in the direction of fascism. The US is run by centrists who will spit in your face (while their Republican drinking buddies cheer them on) for daring to suggest populist leftism reforms that would actually improve the quality of life of the working class and poor of the US.

        In that environment people are going to resort to taking meth and stealing scrap to survive, as society is literally trying to kill them off and there is no rational hope to be found for things to change. Are these people druggies, are they sketchy? Are some of them maga heads who turn to pathetic and hateful views? Yes, but I think it is important to always recognize the conditions that lead desperate people to act in desperate ways when we discuss the repulsiveness of said desperate acts of non-violent crime.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
      19·
      6 months ago

      Chiming in with another juggalo friend who was an incredibly good hearted person. Ended up going to jail for “assaulting an officer” by trying to pull a cop off of someone during the George Floyd protests. I lost touch after that.

      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
        11·
        6 months ago

        sigh meanwhile the cop has still probably got a cushy job and probably goes home every night to get drunk and hit their spouse because that is statistically as far as we can tell what 25-45% of cops do based on difficult to predict statistics that rely on cops snitching on their own illegal behavior (so logically it is probably much higher as hard as that is to wrap your head around).

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 months ago

      Well that’s why they set up a ministry to manage the silly walks, to make sure they complied with gait recognition before they were used.

      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
        1·
        6 months ago

        Maybe the whole point of Monty Python was to sketch out ways that humans could behave that would confuse and hugely throw off machine learning algorithms.

        Talk about “poisoning the well” with AI training, all you have to do is 65% of the time make completely normal and rational intelligent choices and the other 35% be completely illogical and inscrutable. Any algorithm trained on you then, no matter how smart you are or how valuable your knowledge is, will inconsistently and abruptly resort to batshit crazy and unreliable choices and information. :)

        The thousands and thousands of years we have nurtured sarcasm and absurdism in the garden of human culture has all been for this one true purpose…

        I would say maybe John Cleese is an alien trying to save us, but Cleese is a dick no matter how funny the stuff he was involved in was and I would hope Aliens were much more open minded than he is.

    • Dojan@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      I’m sure this could be negated with flowy clothing that contains adversarial patterns. At least for a while.

      • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
        7·
        6 months ago

        Love the worst band in the world, fam.

        If nothing else, they’re an inspiration for just doing your own thing artistically. Fuck the critics, just make some shit you’re passionate about, make it available to find its audience, and connect/bring in other folks who want to do the same.

        IMO, they created/‘popularized’ an entire genre of music, and some of it’s better than what they put out (for example, I like Twiztid more - but they wouldn’t be what they are if it wasn’t for ICP and Psychopathic Records)

        Edit: For those who need a pick me up going into work tomorrow, a little MMFCL for ya.

    • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
      54·
      6 months ago

      That’s not doing facial recognition though, that’s a reverse image lookup. It’s a lot easier to find an exact match for a photo.

      • ZeroCool@vger.socialOP
        36·
        6 months ago

        Shhhh they think they’ve outsmarted the shitpost. Let’s just let ‘em have this one. They could probably use the win.

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      6 months ago

      Exploitable

      Replace top clown with normal person to show it finding that Juggalo

      (Apparently that’s Violent J, next to his buddy… Shaggy 2 Dope)

  • don@lemm.ee
    7·
    6 months ago

    Huh, the tweet the article referenced is five years old, I wonder if there’s been any advancement in facial recognition in that regard

    • Hellfire103@lemmy.caEnglish
      19·
      6 months ago

      Last I heard, the CCP did a bit of social engineering and got a load of TikTokkers to post videos in juggalo makeup in order to retrain their facial recognition software.

      I don’t recall if it was successful, but it happened.