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- programming@programming.dev
In my view, all software is political in one way or another. Also, when software makes an attempt to be “politically neutral”, in doing so it is making a political point.
So let’s pick the Linus questionable part regarding the not a Social Warrior place, and I feel that it is time to either think about it or talk about it.
All feedback is welcomed.
You got the feedback as the score under this post.
This statement makes no sense.
If “attempt to be politically neutral” is political, then actually getting up from the bed in the morning can be a political statement as well. Did you consider that some people just like to make things?
Shit man, some days I rolled out of bed only because of political spite. The world is run by those who show up.
Yeah no. I don’t think there’s much value to arguing with you, but when there’s an oppressor and an oppressed, “doing nothing” and “letting things be” is not neutral.
For “doing nothing” to be neutral, you have to believe the world is Just, as it is now. Do you?
Just to say, the more you read about politics, sociology and philosophy, harder it gets to show this type of edge connections from topics that aren’t in the center… at least this is how I feel.
Yeah, that’s exactly how it goes. Your article shows an important, logical, and real piece of the larger picture of ideology and politics, but there’s always going to be people who want to not understand.
Is there ever not an oppressor and oppressed? If not this is a shit framework for evaluating anything.
Isn’t that the idea behind the GPL? To make it so even if a community behind a codebase regressed into that dynamic a different community can decide to fork it.
Not taking action is axiomatically “nuetral”, no matter the state of things otherwise. Maybe not defensible, but neutral nevertheless.
Are you that mad that he’s allowing AI code?
I’m sure, you didn’t read a single line in this post. So sad. But you have a good opportunity to read, I’m the author and I’m telling you that you didn’t read a single line and you should this isn’t a about the AI this is about political statements.
Not mad at all? That seems nonsequitur.
Idk. This thread is garbage. Dude is saying he feels oppressed because Linus is allowing some AI code into the Linux kernel.
I’ve the impression you didn’t read a single line in the post.
Normal from the Reddit, unusual from Piefed to be honest.
Read the post. Have you own view on the topic.
It’s the weakest of weak arguments. But they aren’t technically wrong. Though I don’t agree with the fervor their chasing this with. If there is one field where AI might make some sense. It is coding Etc. Unfortunately, likely at the moment they are still using large commercial models such as Claude etc. Run by exploitative oligarchs. That said, if you want someone to displace the exploitative oligarchs. People like Torvald are exactly the sort of people you need. They know exactly how exploitative the tech Giants are. And are developing platform and systems that will be capable of replacing them. While being capable of being much more ethical, sustainable, and available. It’s kind of their whole thing for 40 years or so.
I do agree in certain point. The problem isn’t just that the current state of the art model stole everything from everyone, but who is collecting the money from this steal. If the models were fully open (training data + bias + models + instructions sets…) the “stealing from the open public” could be… accepted…
The problem isn’t the usage of AI, but moving the conversation to “Linux is not political” when it clearly is.
Wtf are you talking about? How are you being oppressed, exactly?
By the owning class, as a working class person, with limited capacity to control my own hardware, due to legal ownership of the software it runs.
Funny that a “plus/minus” changes how you see the post. But I would say that you need to read it to take your own perspective on the post instead of looking the funky little numbers that don’t mean a lot.
Ps.: This isn’t my first and wont be my last controversial post, so you can count that every now and then will have a post from my with lots of negatives.
Edit: Funny that from what I can see it’s a 40%/60% ratio. Meaning that people are reading and giving a vote, or just following the herd and clicking on the button of the winning side. I wish I could have the time for each vote to make a more in depth view of it.