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Flickertail@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

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Flickertail@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • dreadedsemi@lemmy.world
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    The author calls it JIF. He intended it as Jif because he has butter fingers and like butter brand JIF.

    I’m used to hard G though.

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      And British people made English, but they don’t say anything right either.

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        But the food is delicious.

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        Little ironic… but ok.

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      I know he says it’s pronounced “jif”, but I just don’t care. It’s like “gift” without the t

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        Let’s be honest here, English does not have that level of consistency. “Women” is pronounced with an “i” for christ sake

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          Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced…

          Probably that was originally introduced by some medieval swinger society, so they could say that they are faithful to their women and technically not be lying about it. When the church figured out they introduced the o as an i thing.

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            Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced…

            woman = wum-en
            women = wim-in

            Yeah I’m gonna have to disagree with you there, chief.

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              i always eas taught the plural to be pronounced as “wi-men” I also cannot remember any english TV show or so to talk about wimin, so where the second ibis explicit as an i and distinguishable from an e

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        Or like “gin” with an f?

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          Ginf? That’s a new one.

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            No, you’re supposed to replace the letter, not add it, so “fin”

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              gfn

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            Oh come on, you know what I mean

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          Never. No.

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        Say the word “though” in your head. Then add a “t” to it. Would you really argue that “though” and “thought” are pronounced the same simply because they’re the same spelling save for a final “t”?

        The easiest “rule” is that the creator can decide how to pronounce and spell it lol. Taking English rules that don’t even apply 100% of the time to its own words and trying to hold made-up words to the same standards just sounds silly to me haha

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          There are no rules to how new words come into being or how old ones change.

          If everyone says a word a certain way with certain meaning, then that’s what it is. One person doesn’t get to decide.

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          Could easily be ‘thof’.

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        It’s more like giant or gin or giraffe.

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          No, it’s more like give or get or girl.

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            Get is not even gi

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      Yeah, I always read it as “Jif” then came the correctness police of Reddit and I was bullied into “Gif” by guilt.

      And now some 8-40 years later, I feel anything but “Gif” is wrong. Help!

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        Help!

        Absolutely not, I don’t say this often but those bullies did the right thing.

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        Do you pronunce it guilt or juilt? Okay bad question

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          How do you pronounce giraffe? or giant? or gin?

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          I thought it was at least jood.

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      Can you really just drop a hard G like that though? Thought that was only okay for them to say

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      Good thing word coiners don’t get full control over word usage.

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        They do though when they are right.

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      I’m sorry, but he waited 26 years to tell everyone how it’s pronounced… at this point you can go with the majority, or stick with however you want to pronounce it.

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      He made the format, not English.

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        Nobody made english, nor is a language static. It is an everchanging result of millions of people using and evolving it.

        A language that doesn’t change is dead, like latin is. So any rule of how something is supposed to be in a language is subject to time and place, but never absolute.

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          That’s my point. If everyone pronounces a word a certain way, THAT is its correct pronunciation. The first person to say a thing doesn’t get to tell everyone else they’re wrong.

          Everyone started using the word “literally” to mean figuratively, so the official definition changed to mean either or.

          Everyone says GIF similar to gift, then that’s the proper pronunciation. Creator has no say.

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        Ya and in English, we pronounce things like giant, giraffe, gin, etc. with a “j” sound.

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          Find me a closer English word than “Gift” that uses a J sound for the G

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            Gin

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            English doesn’t work that way. Man is the closest work to woman. Doesn’t mean you pronounce the “m” “a” “n” in the two words the same way.

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              English works like all languages. It’s organic and full of exceptions. New words pop up, old ones die, pronunciations change and differ between similar words.

              Most people chose to say gif like gift. One person doesn’t get to change it just because of who they are. Otherwise celebrities can start changing things.

              This is all like the Mean Girls scene where the girl was trying to make “fetch” happen and the other girl shot her down.

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      He didn’t intend shit. He just wanted to watch the world burn!

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      This makes no sense. It stands for “Graphics Interchange Format”, do they pronounce it jraphics too?

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        There are so many examples in this thread alone as to why this rule doesn’t work.

        SCUBA: the U is for “underwater” and the A is for “apparatus”. We don’t pronounce it “SC-uh-B-ahhh”.
        JPEG: The P is for “photographic”. We don’t pronounce it “JayFeg”.
        LASER: The E is for “emission”. We don’t pronounce it “Lay-See-R”.
        RADAR: The second A is for “And” (lol). We don’t pronounce it “Ray-Day-R”.

        The easiest “rule” is just the guy who made it up can dictate how they want it spelled and to pronounce. The word is made up anyway, and isn’t subject to rules that actual English words have been subjected to for however long the language evolved.

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          The guy that came up with with the acronym for unidentified flying object also wrote that it should pronounced you-fo but everyone spells it out because that is less confusing. So there is an example of the creator being ignored.

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        How do you pronounce JPEG? Jay-feg?

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          Yep, I take your point

          Seems an odd choice in gif’s case still, as you can use the starting letter sounds from each word and it doesn’t sound weird.

          Not the same for jpeg. P by itself doesn’t make a ph sound.

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      I don’t really give a fuck what he intended. If he wanted it to be pronounced JIF he should have named it that.

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        So how do you pronounce giraffe or giant or gin?

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          How do you pronounce “graphic”?

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            How do you pronounce “underwater?” (It’s the “u” in scuba)

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        Copyright concerns?

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    G in gif stands for graphics just like how P in jpeg stands for poto

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      I feel that if you’re going to bother people who pronounce it “Jiff” because Graphics, you have to also say “Sc-uh-bÆ” and “Lass-ear” and “ray-dare.”

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        Don’t forget Nay-saa.

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      Gesus Krissed…

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        He did what now?

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          Krissed all over the sopa

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            Did you shampoo my wife!?

    • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙@lemmy.world
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      G in gif stands for graphics just like how P in jpeg stands for potato

      FTFY

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      Wait until they find out about scuba and laser

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        skubba

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      So really it should be pronounced “jfeg”

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      deleted by creator

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      yeah it’s not “jraphics”

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    English is phonetically inconsistent, you can find examples to support both ways of pronouncing it.

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      There are some consistencies in letter patterns, just not in individual letters. For example, no word that starts with go-, ga-, or gu- pronounces the g like a j (except for the archaic gaol, and there’s a reason the spelling was changed to jail). It’s mainly limited to ge- and gi- words.

      Inconsistencies with the other options are probably due either to how the term came into English (English is practically built on loanwords) or some other subsequent pattern of letters I’m too lazy to try to identify.

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        The J does what it wants

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      The only real rule is that words come and go and change organically. People don’t just decree that a word needs to change like some king of language.

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    Hard G and soft G are both acceptable pronunciations, the only way to be wrong in the situation is to insist that your preferred way to pronounce it is the only correct way to pronounce it

    Oh, except silent G. Silent G is wrong.

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      deleted by creator

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          nah fuck that i’mma be unapologetically weird and scruffy

          life’s too short to give a fuck

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            In that case, yodspeed my dude

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        How do I delete someone else’s comment

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      Gif you say so

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      Hard R would also be wrong.

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        I will never not smile when this comes up. Not because of the word, but because of Linus.

        https://youtu.be/MFDiuBomSuY

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          The innocent “what?! No!” :D

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      No Gifs or Gbuts

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      Based and true

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      Gigh, as the Scots pronounce it. That’s the only way.

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    Man that’s so clever and new. Like a giraffe drinking gin

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      Or a guitar gift.

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      In a garage.

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      and jraphics interchange format

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    In English the correct way to pronounce something is the way that will most reliably communicate to your intended audience without ambiguity or distraction.

    Since my intention is usually to convey my superior knowledge of trivia and/or to stir shit up, I pronounce it with a soft g.

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      You have perfectly described my entire purpose in life.

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      So no one should be able to say ‘sontimeters’? Cause that’s super distracting.

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      For the same reason I like to pronounce jraphics.

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      I love you

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    I seen a guraffe at the zoo!

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      And it had a gift.

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        Was it a gyro?

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          If it were gyf or gir, then it could have been gyro or giraffe. But no, it was a gift of gif.

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        Sorry, did you say it had a gif?

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      I mean it’s funny but of course you are objectively wrong.

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        I hate you feel that way. Can I get you a jift to make you feel better?

        It will be a guygantic jift. A large external drive that can hold MANY jiggabytes. Just be careful, it will take a lot of power. 1.21 jiggawatts at least.

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      You lie guraffos are lies told by whores and god

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      Don’t you mean a jay-raffe?

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      This one is good

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      But the g in gif stands for “graphical,” not “giraffe!” You silly goose

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        yeah man, just like you go scuba diving oo-nderwater.

        it’s a dead end. We can’t pretend that “g” can’t also be pronounced as “j”, or that the words making up the acronym matter. It’s all preference and since GIF’s dad called it “jif”, I’m gonna call it “jif”. At least that’s based on something beyond my own hubris.

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          This is my thinking - as far as I know he actually called it that as a reference to jif peanut butter.

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          Saying it with a hard G because ‘graphical’ has a hard G is a reason based on something beyond hubris.

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        That’s easily the worst reasoning for the hard-g considering how we don’t pronounce the letters of most acronyms based on the phrases they come from.

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          Tell that to Qantas, the abomination of all acronyms. WHERE IS THE U??? AAAAAAAAA

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        Just like jpeg is pronounced “jfeg”

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        The p in jpeg stands for “photographic”.

        So… “jay-feg”?

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    And how do you pronounce giraffe? Giant?

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      And how do you pronounce gift? Gondola?

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        The guy-ant ger-raffe jave me a jift on his jondola.

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        See, the one thing I consistently see from the hard g side is a lack of understanding of fundamental phonics. Like, say it how you want, but at least make cogent arguments.

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    I don’t really care for a logical explanation. JIF just sounds fucking stupid and yall know it.

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      I call it Jife just to piss off everyone.

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        Zhaif! XD

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      That’s how I feel about Giff though – yuck what an ugly word.

      I grew up eating Jif and we loved it

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        Not to mention it’s literally a “Choosy devs choose GIF” joke, aping “Choosy moms choose Jif”. Soft-g homies for jife.

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        Nah, too damn close to jizz.

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          You should see a doctor and stop eating peanuts immediately.

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      I’m guessing you sip on ghin and juice (laid back)?

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    This comment section is killing me lmao.

    You have people saying that language is fluid, and that one person cannot decide which pronunciation is correct. Then, in that same comment, they say that their preferred pronunciation is obviously correct.

    Hard g, soft g, you do you. It really doesn’t change much.

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      This is fair. My only issue is with those that go “but the creator says it’s pronounced this way! The other way is clearly wrong!” as if what the creator says actually matters. It doesn’t. Especially when said creator waits 26 years to announce how he pronounces it.

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        I’ve always thought he’s just playing a huge prank on people.

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          Same, tbh.

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        To be honest, it really doesn’t bother me either way

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      I pronounce it “zhif” like the sound from zsa zsa Gabor’s name. It irritates everyone equally, and gives me a happy.

      Also, if you’re familiar with the gnome/guh-nome debate on the Linux side of the playground, pronouncing it with a glottal stop at the beginning will give everyone around an immediate stroke.

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        I respect this

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          It’s very fun. Try it out on some people. Lol.

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    I say jif. But when heard someone say jithub instead of github i felt the cringe

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    Not this again…lol it’s gif god damn it!

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      I did used to say gif but now I say gif.

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    It’s pronounced gif with a hard G.

    When I rise to power anyone who disagrees will be immediately found guilty of thought crimes and sentenced to castration, followed by execution, in that order.

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      Think maybe you need to get out more

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    Next thing people will be pronouncing SQL as “sequel” and then where will we be?

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      That one makes perfect sense though.

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        No it’s absolutely Squirrel

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          “Squeal”

          As in “databases will make you squeal like a piggie”

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            Squirrel like “who the fuck tore through this and denormalized it”

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      Nowhere good, that’s for sure.

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    Look, I say Jif, but this meme is hilarious. Can’t we just stop the silly fighting?

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      No. My hard drive still has 1.21 more jigabytes of free space available for more memes.

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        Jijabytes

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          Jiggity jiggity

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        What the hell is a jogabyte?!

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