• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    3·
    6 hours ago

    The number of times I had to ask “how can I tell where the file ‘physically’” (I know) “lives” on the network when I took up work at a Windows shop, it was just baffling. And Win people couldn’t understand what I was asking.

    There’s a location for this effing thing. I want to know where it is, really! How do I get that info?!

  • yeather@lemmy.ca
    2·
    6 hours ago

    Shouldn’t the blade be green? I thought Luke wore all black in ROTJ when he got hos green lightsaber.

  • atx_aquarian@lemmy.world
    68·
    17 hours ago

    Fun fact, though: Linux is the only case-sensitive one.

    Edit: I feel silly for forgetting that it’s all about the choice of FS. If anyone needs anything from me, I’ll be in the corner, coloring.

    • Localhorst86@feddit.org
      53·
      15 hours ago

      From a technical standpoint, the windows NTFS filesystem is designed inherently case sensitive, just windows doesn’t allow creating case sensitive files.

      Connecting an NTFS drive to linux, you can create two separate files readme.txt and Readme.txt.

      Using windows, you can see both files in the filesystem, but chances are most (if not all) software will struggle accessing both files, opening readme.txt might instead open Readme.txt or vice versa.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        6 hours ago

        You’re correct. I once was trying to rename a file in Windows in a git repository that had a wrong capitalization. It was tricky.

        • The_Decryptor@aussie.zoneEnglish
          10·
          10 hours ago

          NTFS was designed back in the mid 90s, when the plan was to have the single NT kernel with different subsystems on top of it, some of those layers (i.e. POSIX) needed case sensitivity while others (Win32 and OS/2) didn’t.

          It only looks odd because the sole remaining subsystem in use (Win32) barely makes use of any of the kernel features, like they’re only just now enabling long file paths.

      • pixelscript@lemm.eeEnglish
        13·
        14 hours ago

        For a few years now, Windows has had the capability of marking certain directories as case-sensitive. So you can have a mixed-case-sensitivity filesystem experience now. Yeah. :/

    • frezik@midwest.social
      12·
      12 hours ago

      I once ran into a bug in an Arduino program where it wouldn’t compile. The author blamed my “broken environment”. Turned out, he had included “arduino.h” instead of the correct “Arduino.h”.

      • paperplane@lemmy.world
        13·
        17 hours ago

        When case insensitivity is the default I always wonder how many apps unknowingly rely on that due to typos somewhere. I encountered this once while porting a Windows/macOS app to Linux that someone imported a module with the wrong case and nobody noticed

      • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
        111·
        11 hours ago

        Hard disagree. I don’t understand why anyone would want case insensitive.

        Am I the only one who doesn’t go around mindlessly capitalizing letters? Do people find it too difficult to capitalize things?

        Do you want case insensitive passwords too?

        If I type X I mean X and only X. Uppercase letters are different letters, just like X and Y are different letters.

      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
        241·
        15 hours ago

        Case-insensitive filesystems are for maniacs. They are only causing trouble. Ever had two folders with the same name but different capitalization in windows? You see both, but whichever you click it will always open the same one, while the other can’t be accessed. Psychopath behavior.

        • ahornsirup@feddit.org
          2·
          13 hours ago

          That’s because NTFS isn’t case-insensitive. If it was there’d be no two folders. Windows is a case-insensitive operating system running on a case-sensitive file system. It’s pretty clear Microsoft wanted case sensitivity and then realised how much legacy software that’d break.

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
        12·
        16 hours ago

        Makes changing the case of a file/folder a lot easier though. Windows you have to rename it to something else then rename it again just to change case but Linux you can just…rename it. It’s a small thing but it’s something

    • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      12 hours ago

      What is this “real” concept anyway?

      Adam Savage famously stated on Mythbusters “I reject your reality and substitute my own”

      Sure, but is reality even real then? Is anything real?

      Not that I meant to get all pop-philosophical on this beautiful Sunday morning, sorry about that.

      • GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        6 hours ago

        I, too, first heard this quote from Adam on Mythbusters as a child. But, I’m pretty sure I also heard it was said first by some philosopher.

        I would later be informed that “some philosopher” was the 1984 film The Dungeon Master.

        Only apparently that was not the first, and it was said in a 1974 episode of Doctor Who. Well, someone on Reddit said that, and linked to this WikiQuote page but on that page it also says it’s from The Dungeon master.

        So, I don’t know what to believe any more, and I still hope it was actually an obscure lost quote of Rene Magritte or something because in my head it would just make sense.

      • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
        1·
        6 hours ago

        Yes

        Interpretation of reality is individual

        Reality itself is relative

        But if it didn’t exist we wouldn’t be chatting about it right now

        That’s my reality anyway

        What’s yours?

        • hemmes@lemmy.worldEnglish
          16·
          20 hours ago

          JFC, thank you. I didn’t realize until it was spelled out for me. I’m definitely not that kind of smart.

          This is why I always sucked at games like Myst

          • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
            1·
            9 hours ago

            Myst and Riven are two of my favorite games of all time. Give Myst another go if you’ve never finished it. After you complete the game, you unlock the “making of Myst” videos. The red and blue brothers in the videos are the two creators. They were independent developers in the 90s, so they made do with what they had. At one point they shove a rubber hose into a toilet to make the atmospheric bubbling sounds.

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
          9·
          20 hours ago

          I realized immediately, read the comment, and then went back to look for a deeper meaning. It wasn’t there.

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
          41·
          20 hours ago

          I realized immediately, read the comment, and then went back to look for a deeper meaning. It wasn’t there.

  • pelya@lemmy.world
    56·
    23 hours ago

    You can actually use / as a path separator on Windows in functions like fopen(), because it supports some ancient version of POSIX standard.

    • palordrolap@fedia.io
      31·
      22 hours ago

      There used to be an undocumented setting in early versions of MS-DOS that would allow the setting of the command option character to something other than the slash, and if you did that, the slash automatically became the path separator. All you needed was SWITCHAR=- in your CONFIG.SYS and DOS was suddenly very Unix-y.

      It was taken out after a while because, with the feature being undocumented, too many people didn’t know about it and bits of software - especially batch files, would have been reliant on things being “wrong”. The modern support for regular slash in API calls probably doesn’t use any of the old SWITCHAR code, but it is, in some way, the spiritual descendant of that secret feature.

      Here’s an old blog that talks about it: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/archive/blogs/larryosterman/why-is-the-dos-path-character

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      12·
      21 hours ago

      The one thing about NT was that it didn’t have it’s own semantics, but it could emulate any system you wanted. It’s the unofficial successor of an OS that was based on creating VMs where you could run any other OS you want.

      Then Microsoft decided to create their own system in it, and only really finished writing that one.

    • SatyrSack@feddit.orgEnglish
      28·
      22 hours ago

      And BSD. It’s really just Windows vs. literally everything. Or is there anything else that uses backslashes?

    • mercano@lemmy.world
      9·
      20 hours ago

      Only Mac OS 10 and later, based on BSD, uses ‘/‘. (And, I guess, A/UX.) Classic MacOS used a ‘:’, but it wasn’t regularly exposed in the UI. The only way most users would know is that the colon couldn’t be used in a file name.

      • horse@feddit.org
        3·
        16 hours ago

        I might be wrong, but I think you still can’t use a ‘:’ in a filename in macOS. If I recall correctly it will let you do it and show it in Finder, but actually replace it with a ‘-’.

  • umbraroze@lemmy.world
    212·
    21 hours ago

    I don’t really watch Star Wars. I’m a more of a Trekkie gal.

    🖖

    See, you can separate files both ways as long as it’s logical

  • RedSnt@feddit.dk
    6·
    20 hours ago

    If you know what a nordic keyboard layout looks like, you’d probably prefer backslash. Since I moved to Linux a year ago I’ve been struggling to find the easiest way to forward slash. Shift + 7? Or numpad / with my right pinky?

    • bricked@feddit.orgDeutsch
      6·
      16 hours ago

      For me it’s even worse. Forward slash is also Shift + 7 and backslash is AltGr + ß?? I hate that computing is only optimized for US american layouts. Going by my keyboard, the filepath separator should probably be an ö.

      • RedSnt@feddit.dk
        1·
        6 hours ago

        The alt gr + ß is probably the same for nordic keyboards, the one below A. It’s <>\ for me, but afaik both < and > are also individual keys on a US keyboard. And then there’s ~. But I guess you get used to dead keys.

    • dan@upvote.au
      41·
      20 hours ago

      Get a macro pad and configure one button to type a forward slash.

      How do you type URLs using that keyboard layout?

      • RedSnt@feddit.dk
        5·
        19 hours ago

        Shift+7 feels wrong for some reason, so I currently tend to just send my pinky on a kamikaze mission towards the numpad hoping I hit /. Sometimes I hit numlock, sometimes I hit *.
        Even if I made a compose key “shortcut” via ~/.XCompose it’d still be more work than what I’m doing already.

        Macro pad could be a solution, I have considered it beforehand for other purposes tbh

      • Gestrid@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        Actually, from what I can tell in my brief 15-minute internet search, every version of Windows since NT has accepted both because DOS 2.0 supported both. The exception to this was Command Prompt. But, these days, it supports both. Not sure when they made that change in Command Prompt, but I think it’s been that way since at least Windows 7.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
      69·
      23 hours ago

      Linux uses forward slash. Windows uses backslash. Because some dude 45 years ago wanted to make it look different from UNIX.

        • PNW_Doug@lemmy.world
          20·
          23 hours ago

          They did! And I weirdly kind of miss them for the entirely non-logical reason that they looked elegant.

          Don’t get me wrong, I adapted in about 3 seconds when I made the switch to Mac OS X 25 years ago, but I irrationally kinda miss them just a tiny bit.

        • __nobodynowhere@startrek.websiteEnglish
          20·
          22 hours ago

          DOS originally didn’t even support directories but was using / for command line arguments. They didn’t want to change the option character and break stuff so they went with \ as the directory separator.

          DOS wasn’t originally created by Microsoft. They bought the OS from computer shop in Seattle.

  • Black History Month@lemmy.world
    216·
    17 hours ago

    I love linux like a pet. I love windows like my car. Can we stop with this pointless making a content mountain over any insignificant difference. Don’t get me started