It’s been a long and bloody conflict since Israel’s inception. But does any of this justify Hamas and Hezbollah killing/kidnapping Israeli civilians? Hamas wasn’t forced to do October 7th, or to fire off over 10,000 rockets since then. Hezbollah wasn’t forced to fire off rockets in solidarity with them. Neither of those things is stopping the cycle of violence. To suggest the onus is entirely on Israel is absolving these two literal terrorist groups of their responsibilities.
Not in our minds, but we aren’t in their shoes. We haven’t lived in an open air prison our entire lives watching a foreign power wantonly murder, torture, and rape our friends.
And it certainly has done wonders for attention to Israel’s crimes.
If raping and murdering people is an acceptable way to bring attention to issues, then the Russian invasion of Ukraine under the pretense of eliminating anti-Russian bias and removing Nazi influence in their government. You and I both know that’s a ridiculous statement, but it follows logically from yours.
It does not follow logically because Ukraine is fully incapable of blockading and raiding Russia at will. At least until Russia forced them to militarize by invading them in 2014.
Ukraine’s capabilities wouldn’t change whether Russia’s invasion was unjust. If they were a corrupt nation run by neo-Nazis (they aren’t) and Russia wanted to draw attention to it, then they’d be justified in attacking Ukraine.
It’s been a long and bloody conflict since Israel’s inception. But does any of this justify Hamas and Hezbollah killing/kidnapping Israeli civilians? Hamas wasn’t forced to do October 7th, or to fire off over 10,000 rockets since then. Hezbollah wasn’t forced to fire off rockets in solidarity with them. Neither of those things is stopping the cycle of violence. To suggest the onus is entirely on Israel is absolving these two literal terrorist groups of their responsibilities.
The suggestion is that they won’t stop until Israel does. Roll over and let the genocide happen isn’t a realistic peace plan.
And allowing Hamas to continue killing people with impunity isn’t realistic either.
It’s almost like we need some kind of negotiated peace wherein Israel actually backs all the way off for the first time since 1967.
(Checks Hamas’ charter) Oh look that’s what Hamas’ stated goal is.
And raping/killing over 1,000 people and taking over 200 hostages is clearly the best way to achieve peace.
Not in our minds, but we aren’t in their shoes. We haven’t lived in an open air prison our entire lives watching a foreign power wantonly murder, torture, and rape our friends.
And it certainly has done wonders for attention to Israel’s crimes.
If raping and murdering people is an acceptable way to bring attention to issues, then the Russian invasion of Ukraine under the pretense of eliminating anti-Russian bias and removing Nazi influence in their government. You and I both know that’s a ridiculous statement, but it follows logically from yours.
It does not follow logically because Ukraine is fully incapable of blockading and raiding Russia at will. At least until Russia forced them to militarize by invading them in 2014.
Ukraine’s capabilities wouldn’t change whether Russia’s invasion was unjust. If they were a corrupt nation run by neo-Nazis (they aren’t) and Russia wanted to draw attention to it, then they’d be justified in attacking Ukraine.