Got greeted with this message today. I’ve been playing Apex on linux for more than a year. Not sure if this could be related? Is this just me?
I’ve contested the ban and I’m currently waiting for a response from ea support.
UPDATE : Got an email response from EA today. It’s basically a generic message saying that my account was associated with “cheating practices” and so they will not remove the ban.
This is absolutely fucking ridiculous! I’ve been playing this game since 2020 and have 3K+ hours on record, now this shit happens and there’s no recourse ? Fuck this company.
They banned you for a reason. I have yet to meet a cheater that admits it. They all deny it the last study done 57% of gamers are using some type of cheat.
Why would I open this post if I was actually cheating ? The whole point is that I got banned but never cheated. This is a false positive related to playing with proton.
These types of losers argue that anyone who was banned for any reason is a cheater, merely because they have a ban, and yes it’s a logical fallacy to argue that, it’s called circular logic. It’s a common tactic among trolls, and bad-faith actors.
Cheaters make appeal request all the time. I admin for some game servers and never seen a vpn cause a false positive. As a matter of fact most cheaters use vpns to try and play on servers that dont allow vac bans by purchased/stolen/newsteam accounts. Only you and god know the truth but Im going off experience.
Look at where you are at “linux_gaming” proton is not a vpn, but a wine wrapper. I get warnings all the time from Apex’s anticheat “failing” havent been banned, but wouldnt suprise me it would cause a false positive.
Proton is a VPN, but yes, that’s not what was referenced here
@Neon @piccolo lol easy to confuse such things cus both can get u banned if the company owning the game is ran by lames xD
Proton VPN is way more popular than Proton wine wrapper just saying!
Look buddy, I know that using circular logic to try and presume and decide that someone is a cheater may fly on Steamcommunity, 4chan, and kiwifarms but it doesn’t fly here on Lemmy, so while such an argument might get people to nod their heads on those places, it’s not going to work out here.
The people here are technically savvy, and also privy to many of the deceptive and manipulative tactics used by people like you to foster ill will against other players who in reality didn’t do anything wrong.
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You sound like most of the trolls I see on places like 4chan and kiwi who assume or make up awful shit about people to justify their behavior towards them. What’s more important is that you don’t have any proof OP is a bad-faith actor. You’re fostering ill-will of someone based on an assumption. Oh wait you’re going to say that you blieve that the “proof” is that other people do it so therefore OP did it? Yeah that’s called circular logic, you are making an assumption about the OP and then coming to the conclusion based on that assumption. We’ve seen trolls do this all the time, it’s a common tactic and it does indeed sometimes work on those who don’t recognize the fallacy, or those who are afraid of standing up, two things that are absolutely not the case here in this community, people do recognize the fallacy, and people here aren’t afraid to stand up against people who are fostering ill-will towards others without merit.
You dont even know this guy… yet you are so sure he is not cheating… lmfao
Proof = he was banned its the OP picture! You have 0 proof he did not cheat and you dont know him but here you are so sure he “dindu nuffin” wrong and Im a bad guy.
Proof he was banned isn’t proof he is a cheater, that’s the circular logic but I’m sure you know that already. I am definitely sure of one thing though, you are a troll, a bad-faith actor, or both, trying to foster ill-will towards an individual you do not know based on faulty logic, when in reality you couldn’t prove the claims you make against him, even if your life depended on it.
You also are mischaracterizing and making bad-faith assumptions because people aren’t willing to take your lies and logical fallacies as “the truth”. The fact of the matter is, you cannot prove that OP cheated, all you can do is assume he did and use the fact he was banned as justification for it being true, drawing conclusion from the assumption without any evidence. That isn’t a real argument, that is you trying to phrase your own assumption based on nothing at all as if it were an indisputable fact. Which it clearly is not.
Where is your proof he is not cheating??? You call this circular conversation because you cant prove that he is not cheating anymore than I can. The only thing we know for sure is that his account is banned.
I been playing video games all my life and I have never been banned. Believe what ever you want to believe just don’t try and feed me shit about a topic Im very fluent in.
How exactly does one prove a negative? Juggling fallacies isn’t a good look, my friend.
You defend cheaters blind you aint my friend. The only fallacy here is the OP was banned for no reason. Didu nuffin!
Lmao you can’t be real. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
This person is for sure a troll, or a corporate shill. Either way not someone who has any credibility at all.
Ohh its real like the OP ban!
That might be relevant if OP was talking about using Proton VPN, but they’re talking about Proton, the compatibility layer shipped with Steam for Linux.
There are a ton of documented cases where bans falsely identify Linux users as cheaters, and later many (most?) of those bans get overturned. It seems to come in waves (likely an anti-cheat update), and it’s annoying every time.
My solution is to just not play games with anti-cheat, because there’s no way I’m going back to Windows, and there’s also no way I’m going to play the ban/appeal game. My time is worth more than that.
That guy’s a classic case of a troll who doesn’t want to accept that they are wrong about their initial assumption and just keeps moving the goal posts hoping they win the argument eventually. They also really want to believe that OP is a bad person and will use anything they can to try and justify it, including logical fallacies and misrepresentation.
Yeah ofc cheaters don’t admit it. That doesn’t mean anyone accused of cheating is a cheater.
That “study” you are quoting is a survey from irdeto, owner of denuvo. And while skimming it I can’t even find the claim that 57% are using cheats.
A study from irdeto? That seems like something totally reputable and not at all biased or with fudged information at all /s Yeah obviously not, this company is well known for lots of sleazy practices, as are a majority of DRM companies, it’s how they sell their products. The upshot is it means it’s very hard if not impossible to trust them when they create ““studies””.
Ever heard of EFT? Cause thats cheater central with probably close to 70% of gamers using cheats.
He didn’t get accused he was banned ffs! There is a big difference. Most games catch about 30% of the cheaters but those are the one caught, there are a ton of cheaters in EFT who use ESP but call out to their team mates who are not using ESP to make the kill. Instead of just getting gud!