Would need to be one that restricts participation of the other party, Lemmy blocks are useless in that regard. Otherwise you’re not doing anything to deal with network effect just pretending those spaces don’t exist. Something only useful for snowflakes with weak emotions, and not people who want to make a difference.
In order for that to work there needs to be effort taken to curb persistent network effect like the utterly monolithic communities on lemmy.ml. When there isn’t any, they just get bigger and stronger. That isn’t something you can do by starting new instances, it has to be done by ones with a big slice of the pie, something new instances never have unless started just after the collapse of an existing one.
Their audience isn’t the problem it’s mainly the moderation style they use, which is very extreme, even compared to similar instances like lemmy.blahaj.zone.
Especially because they likely did it knowing they could sneakily refederate later without people knowing, which is probably what they did recently.
Yeah they’re way too extreme up to the point of walking on eggshells around them. Personally I never participated there but from what I’ve seen they go way too harsh. I think their intentions are good but they still need to loosen up a bit, okay a lot.
Though in a way it’s good because it means they broke the early network effect they had in their communities by cutting off lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
The people in the early days of Fediverse who came up with cringey and misleading fediverse admins made a lot of claims that weren’t true. Like that here no one can censor (moderate) you and that it’s a freeze peach bastion. Both of these are not true at all. ActivityPub federation isn’t about no rules, freedom of speech, or lack of censoring. It’s about sites and services cooperating and inter-operating. Freedom of speech isn’t a goal of the fediverse, (alt-right trolls, transphobes, extremists need to be banned to have healthy communities) nor is it about not being able to be moderated. It is about websites to be able to cooperate and interoperate and share their content automatically with each others users.
If you wanted something for free speech and un-governability this isn’t it. You’re probably better off on Nostr. Until you realize how awful that actually is (even EH realized that hence why hilariouschaos.com exists).
They got offended because they support that same crap and they see it being called out.
I don’t know if I would agree with that assessment entirely, yes Lemmy.world has the same starting Jerk to not jerk ratio. However on Lemmy.world the amount of jerks who aren’t banned is higher than instances like blahaj.zone, dbzer0, or pawb.social. So there are more jerks on Lemmy.world, not because it attracts more jerks or has more users but also because it doesn’t ban them as often as other instances do.
I’m using jerk kind of loosely but I’ll clarify because people will think I’m trying to say someone should be banned for a rude moment but I’m not. When I say jerk, what I really mean is alt-right troll, transphobe, sealioner, climate-denier, etc. Someone who isn’t obvious enough to be caught as a spammer would but who is still bad for the community.
Lemmy.world has kind of awful moderation, which means people who are trolls or bad actors have lived here for a very long time despite multiple reports. It was only recently that Linkerbaan (the most notorious one of all) was banned, and it took a thread complaining about bans in !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com and dbzer0 admins messaging them to get their attention.
There are other people here like that which never receive permanent bans for consistently horrible behavior. It’s not great, and while I don’t agree with Beehaw’s decision to defederate over it I do think that things could be better. It does degrade user experience to have known trolls and assholes running wild and only getting a slap on the wrist when they do something horrible.
It happened that way with Beehaw. Beehaw used to be in the same position as lemmy.ml with some of their communities. But they decided to knee jerk defederate us and sh.itjust.works because we’re big. They stopped being the de-facto communities not just for us here but almost anywhere else. Defederation does curb this kind of network effect, and quickly too, especially when it causes the less active ones to inflate like crazy.
We would adapt, just like when Beehaw was a significant amount of the userbase on Lemmy and they cut us and sh.itjust.works off, we adapted and they got smaller. Lemmy.world is a bigger server than lemmy.ml. Only reason their communities are still so big is network effect. Which would be curbed by them being cut off. As I’ve said already, network effect is curbed by force, taking away a choice, not providing 7 more choices while leaving the original.
I think things like this can be helpful at curbing network effect. Which can only be really curbed by force. Beehaw used to have quite strong network effect in some communities too in the earlier days, but now, they have much less of a vice, and are actually much quieter than they were before.
Might be a good idea to check out !de_ml@lemmy.blahaj.zone in these trying times. In case it’s a while before the issue is fixed.
You can still get your money back for it if you payed with a card, it’s not like RD will be useful again. Might as well reclaim the money you just spent on it.
Do I need to dress feminine too?
I agree with that, it’s not the urinals that are the problem it’s people standing next to each other to pee. Something that wouldn’t even happen if you were pissing outside on a tree or behind some bushes.
Yeah it would be so posts under those same tags get indexed together. Also probably wouldn’t be worth it to enable it in comments. It would probably be an extra field in the post where you add tags, not just typing a #hashtag.
Do you think that you need to pull your pants all the way down and sit to use a toilet to pee, if not what are you doing in the stall that wastes a ton more time? It’s not much slower from my experience just do it the way you would a urinal, with the only difference being that you have a door and real walls.
No, maybe, I don’t know, if there is it’s unspoken and unenforced because I’ve been doing it for years and no one ever complained to me.
Some people think they’re saving a bunch of time by using a urinal over a toilet but honestly it’s 5-6 seconds at most if you use it the same as you would a urinal, no sitting down, no pulling your pants all the way down, etc.
That’s great, hopefully Lemmy can support something like that soon. I know the devs said following tags is out of the question but I don’t think that means content shouldn’t have tags.
You can see it in your modlog by filtering by community bans. Here’s a link to that: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&userId=7652836
That said a lot of these bans you received seem more than justified, only the Hexbear ones I would really chalk up to nutty mods, but if you disagree I’d suggest posting about it on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com as this isn’t the place to discuss mod abuse, that is.