Amazon reportedly used a secret algorithm to jack up prices — A new report details Amazon’s Project Nessie pricing algorithm::Amazon deployed a secret algorithm to gauge how high it could raise prices before its competitors stopped increasing their prices as well.

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      1 year ago

      The article doesnt talk about changing prices based on demand, it is about changing prices based on competitors’ prices.

      And yea, if Target increased their prices when Amazon increased, then they would just all be higher. Then they could do it another round and another round until one of the companies decided they were at the limit.

      If the two companies talked to each other about this, it would be illegal collusion. But instead they have code automate it without an explicit conversation, which may not be illegal but certainly makes our lives worse.

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        1 year ago

        This isn’t an interconnected two way API/algorithm. There is no collusion here. That requires a two way communication and agreement. Amazon is taking public data and automating what every company out there already does.

        At best Amazon will get pegged if they are using internal pricing data, but they likely are using publicly available data from the site to avoid that.

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          1 year ago

          Amazon gets sales data, not just pricing data that can be scraped.

          Its the extra data they get by controlling the platform/marketplace that becomes problematic imo.

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            1 year ago

            I agree that could be a sticking point, and maybe end up with a minor fine for that. Amazon (and Google+ Ms) typically are very good at separating that data. I’m not sure what Amazon would use that here.

            The details are sparse, but that’s not what I read they are doing here.

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                I have a feeling that, if they are separating data properly, it’s not to be ethical and good. I would imagine they do this for compliance.

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                1 year ago

                Amazon is pretty upfront with customer data and protects it well. You might not agree with their policy, but they’ve never lied to the b2b and AWS customers.

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        1 year ago

        Because demand based prices is manipulative bullshit from corporations.

        In Oklahoma during that 2021 winter storm, demand based pricing charged power companies billions for natural gas, this in turn caused rolling blackouts until Oklahoma disconnected from the Texas. The charges were over 100x the normal rate, consumers are still playing for that winter storm with an extra surcharge which I’m guessing will stay there for a long as time.

        Mind you this was caused by Texas based energy companies cheaping out when they deployed their infrastructure. And these same companies either get bailed out by the people or get windfall profits for fucking up. There is no justification for this type of pricing model.