So YouTube has a lot of problems, there’s no denying that. Frivolous and selective (not to mention automated) copyright enforcement, bureaucratic termination appeal system, COPPA idiocy, the whole clusterfuck that is monetization, etc?

In contrast, Odysee is this open-source video platform that fixes many of these problems. It took of, like, I dunno, a year ago? Thing is, it’s still very inactive and dead. A lot of YouTubers have pined for a massive exodus from YouTube, which might sound familiar for many of us Lemmings here. Yet, the majority of them can’t seem to let it go, since YouTube/Google pretty much exercises a monopoly on the online video sharing industry.

What worries me is that Reddit alternatives, such as Lemmy, Mastodon, or kbin, could see a similar fate to YouTube alternatives like Odysee or BitChute. I’d love to see people quit Reddit en masse and hopefully find a “safe harbor” some place like here, but I’m hearing about realistic concerns regarding even the viability of this site’s databases, so I feel like the actual outcome will be more of a small dent than a massive crater.

Which is exactly what Huffman wants and he knows it.

Ugh, I hate this awful corporate creativity-stifling timeline.

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    I feel the need to point out that most of the “problems” you stated about YouTube are due to scale. If any YouTube competitor had to deal with the sheer amount of content YouTube does they would have the exact same problems.

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      Exactly.

      Reddit enshittified because their management is incompetent. They couldn’t turn a profit running ads on a site that mostly serves text, and they couldn’t build a mobile app anyone actually wants to use. They wasted millions of dollars of development on nonsensical bullshit that never panned out instead of improving their core platform.

      YouTube enshittified because hosting this much video is insanely complex and expensive, and people demand it for free. The idea that PeerTube or Odysee could replace it is farcical.

      YouTubers themselves will not leave for anything that doesn’t pay them as much or more than YouTube itself. This is why most of them putting content on additional platforms are doing so on Nebula, Floatplane, or Patreon. Not PeerTube.

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    I still prefer PeerTube.

    (it’s part of the Fediverse. We’re also part of the Fediverse here on Kbin and Lemmy.)

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    Difference between YouTube and Reddit is that YouTube is a content based platform, where as Reddit is a community based platform. In YouTube, people who post videos literally get paid based on their views, so it’s extremely hard for them to move to a different platform where they would not get paid as much. You don’t have that aspect in Reddit. There is no incentive to stay on Reddit if you could do the same thing elsewhere.

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      That’s one significant impasse: YouTube has become a place for content generated with the goal of being paid. It initially wasn’t, and need not be. The “in” for an alternative could be simply in catering to those who motivation isn’t primarily financial. Along with an audience who a different motivation and expectation around content consumption. Just as with the fediverse.

      And, we would be better served doing away with the idea of replacing platforms like YouTube and rather providing bespoke alternatives. We’ll succeed when we stop trying to replace Tesco with Walmart. Which can be difficult, currently, when many users have probably only experienced living in a town where all your shopping is done there and never known a thriving downtown of small businesses.

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    YouTube is much harder to replace because the hosting costs of videos are so much higher than something like reddit.

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    Lol went and checked it out and after about three minutes found out that it’s a block chain crypto bullshit website. No thanks.

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      Thanks for checking it out and warning us, my dude.

      Also, your comment combined with the fact OP only listed some random YT alternative instead of also looking at stuff like Nebula or Feedtube (I think that’s what it’s called?) that actually has content, it makes me wonder if this was supposed to be a lowkey crypto shill.