Real (I assume you mean proven) conspiracies start off as theories.
No, they don’t. Conspiracy theories are not ‘theories about conspiracies’. You are both misusing the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and wrongly describing the Tuskegee experiment as a conspiracy, which it never was. One of the people who originally called it out did so after reading about it in a published scientific paper! The pereptrators of that ‘experiment’ lied to the participants, but they were not otherwise secretive, otherwise they wouldn’t have been writing and publishing papers about it.
Fuck off
I’m not going to discuss this further with someone who cannot do so civilly.
I am not. The words conspiracy and theory are very well defined. Do the words scientific and theory change definition to “untrue physical properties” when used together. No.
Lets put it another way. How would you like to describe a situation where you suspect a group of people to be secretly deceiving the general public?
The pereptrators of that ‘experiment’ lied to the participants, but they were not otherwise secretive, otherwise they wouldn’t have been writing and publishing papers about it.
Conspiracies can be documented. The only reason MKUltra was confirmed was because the CIA forgot to destroy some files.
No, they don’t. Conspiracy theories are not ‘theories about conspiracies’. You are both misusing the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and wrongly describing the Tuskegee experiment as a conspiracy, which it never was. One of the people who originally called it out did so after reading about it in a published scientific paper! The pereptrators of that ‘experiment’ lied to the participants, but they were not otherwise secretive, otherwise they wouldn’t have been writing and publishing papers about it.
I’m not going to discuss this further with someone who cannot do so civilly.
I am not. The words conspiracy and theory are very well defined. Do the words scientific and theory change definition to “untrue physical properties” when used together. No.
Lets put it another way. How would you like to describe a situation where you suspect a group of people to be secretly deceiving the general public?
Conspiracies can be documented. The only reason MKUltra was confirmed was because the CIA forgot to destroy some files.
“Study clinicians could have chosen to treat all syphilitic subjects and close the study, or split off a control group for testing with penicillin. Instead, they continued the study without treating any participants; they withheld treatment and information about penicillin from the subjects. In addition, scientists prevented participants from accessing syphilis treatment programs available to other residents in the area”.
That’s a conspiracy.
Check my history. I am civil, except to people trying to deny secret government sponsored human suffering.