• barkingspiders@infosec.pubEnglish
    7·
    3 months ago

    I am a little biased because I’ve been using Debian professionally for many years now but we don’t deserve Debian. It is fantastically stable and reliable and makes an excellent platform for running your services off of. If you are at all interested in offering some time and energy to the open source community, consider adopting a Debian package!

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 months ago

      I’m thinking about a Linux laptop with FOSS software for my business actually, Lemmy’s relentless horde of pro-Linux propaganda has won me over

      (OK I’ve always liked FOSS I’ve just never taken the jump)

      • qprimed@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

        but seriously, modern FOSS distros (yes, debian is modern, damnit!) are amazingly good. you have an exceptionally high probablility of switching and staying switched.

        • undefined@links.hackliberty.org
          1·
          3 months ago

          I should be more clear: specifically I was rebuilding a Docker image based on Debian and needed Node.js for one build step, then Ruby for another as well as the final image.

          In the Dockerfile there were a ton of weird commands for simply installing Node.js and Ruby whereas on Alpine Linux I could simply install the needed versions from apk. I understand it’s preferable to build these from scratch but in the case of Node.js I was looking to simply compile a bunch of assets then throw away the layer.

          I could’ve spent a bunch of time figuring it out for Debian but I wanted a smaller image in the end anyway too.

  • yum13241@lemm.ee
    2·
    3 months ago

    Yes. I love this meme template.

    This comment was brought to you by the EndeavourOS gang.

  • notanaltaccount@lemmy.world
    2·
    3 months ago

    The packages in Debian are really old. It’s awful.

    I was looking at my xzutils package the other month. “So outdated,” I thought, envying the cool hip trendy Arch users.

    • undefined@links.hackliberty.org
      2·
      3 months ago

      Yeah, I had to bail. FreeBSD was awesome for stable yet bleeding-edge packages, a perfect blend of downloading binaries and compiling from source (when needed) with everything in sync.

      These days I’m using Alpine Linux almost exclusively, but I miss the convenience of FreeBSD and wish it wasn’t being left behind by the Kool Kidz™.

  • mox@lemmy.sdf.org
    1·
    3 months ago

    Tell me you’re an opinionated novice without telling me you’re an opinionated novice.

    (edit:specificity)

  • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyz
    0·
    3 months ago

    It is possible though to get newer versions using flathub or somethibg, right? (I know very little about linux, but I’m thinking of switching from win10 to debian next year.)

    • TechnicallyColors@lemm.eeEnglish
      0·
      3 months ago

      For normal desktop users, yeah Debian Stable + Flatpaks is a winning combo for picking the software that you want to be cutting-edge and leaving the rest to rock-solid stability. Normally Linux distros keep a full ecosystem of packages that interop and depend on each other, but solutions like Flatpak have their own little microcosm of dependencies that can be used independently of the host distro. There are also Debian Backports for when you want native Debian packages that are more cutting-edge but still compiled to work with your older base system. Backports are not available for most packages but sometimes the important ones are available, like the Linux kernel itself. You can also try to compile your own backports, but you’ll be responsible for updating it.

  • mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org
    01·
    3 months ago

    What’s wrong with having a some year old software? Does it do what you need? Yes. Then what? I have all I need on Debian. Why should I care of new updates. Security? Yes we have Debian security because of that. Look, y’all had the xyz backdoor package in your systems because it was new. Me as a Debian stable user I didn’t have to deal with it. Did I lose something by not having the latests software? No. Well maybe less crashes.

    Most privative software also gets weekly updates. Does it make it better? No. You may prefer that.

    Also I don’t get the point about the version numbering of Debian packages. Every team uses the versioning they want.

    From my experience software that updates a lot tends to break old features a lot too.

    Debian suporting freesoftware projects or other stuff doesn’t look as a relevant argument. I mean if you prefer using privative stuff and using that kind of software. Do whatever you like with your Google/Facebook/Apple friends.

    But don’t come intoxicate the community with this bullshit.