I’m not from the UK, but I’ve been trying to understand more about UK politics because of the election and I’ve seen headlines saying the Starmer has been pushing the Labour party to the center. What does that mean in terms of policies he’s said he will push? Also, now that they have won an overwhelming majority, do you think the party will actually use this opportunity to push the UK more left?

  • DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Corbyn was also at the helm of a horrible Labour defeat in 2019.

    Corbyn lost by less than 3 million votes (E: in spite of a brutal years-long smear campaign literally designating him “unelectable”). A “horrible defeat” is the narrative the neoliberal media wants you to follow because it makes him seems like less of a threat to the establishment than he really was.

    E: it’s a bit late and I doubt anyone will see this now, but after seeing it just mentioned on tv I had to add that Starmer won with about a third of the votes, while Corbyn lost with just under half. So no matter how the media or those who believe it try to twist things, and as if there’s really any doubt when you look at the reactions to each, but obviously it has to be said - Corbyn was demonstrably more popular than Starmer is.

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        Absolutely, in case anyone needed more proof that the guy is 100% dedicated to the establishment and furthering his own career, not working class, and definitely not otherwise marginalised people (sadly, many do, so spreading this kind of info far and wide is not only welcome, but necessary).

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      If UK politicians had any sense they’d fix the voting system that let that happen.

      Obviously they won’t because that same system put them in power and is currently holding far-right at bay, but it would be nice.

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        People think that the Brexit Referendum was when the UK timeline split, but imo it split when the Alternative Vote referendum failed back in 2011.

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          Keep in mind that for the way UK elects MPs something like Alternative Vote (or even approval voting, which I prefer) would only help with the problem that only 2 parties have any chance of winning in each particular constituency.

          It doesn’t get around the issue that ‘% of constituencies where party X wins the election’ and ‘% of votes cast for party X’ are in no way the same thing.

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        Obviously they won’t because that same system put them in power

        Yes

        and is currently holding far-right at bay

        No, they’re acting as an establishment backed placeholder while the right regroups in preparation for a surge even further right next elections (when they get to blame all of the countries problems on “lefties”). Also the far right has made pretty significant gains this election.

        Either way though you’re right - he has no reason to fix the voting system. People really need to let this sink in - Starmer isn’t there for the good of the country or the people, but his own and that of the establishment.