Telegramm and “safe”?
Sorry, but these people must have been living under a rock (which actually is quite likely as we are talking about Russia).
Telegram has control over the content and channels and has been working with governments in the past.
This is what happens when western people read such articles. They turn into denial. Telegram is basically the safest place in Russia’s digital space.
these people must have been living under a rock
Russians are very advanced when it comes to the internet. They spend more time in it because real life sucks more than in other countries.
Telegram has control over the content and channels
Doesn’t mean anything. Especially for groups who just want to communicate.
has been working with governments in the past
There is not enough evidence to support the probability of telegram making steps to make finding gay people easier for Russian authorities.
Telegram requires a phone number. That’s a none starter for me. There’s a huge number of services that don’t. This might as well be a honey pot for trapping more lgbt people. Russia has used dating services before in their crackdowns.
There’s a Russian guy I know in some… adult roleplay circles…, kinkiest chap I know. I worry about him… He tried telling me Telegram was “safer”, didn’t know what he meant.
He meant it is not controlled by FSB like VK and mailru shit and doesn’t show phone number to entire world like whatsapp.
LGBTQ+ tankies on lemmy.ml and hexbear have something to say
Yeah I’d like to see them justify that
At a guess: “these things are necessary to secure the state from Western agitators and things will change.”
The great thing about never interacting with a group of people is that you can just make up whatever you want about them.
Surely you’ll have no trouble producing the receipts for what you said then, right? Since you didn’t make it up, can you link to where you saw it?
We wouldn’t need to guess if these people interacted on such topics, but they don’t. Wonder why.
Shout out to that one user named Good Girl who swore that being on Hexbear and Lemmygrad meant she got better treatment than the rest of lemmy.
I hope she gets over her self-hatred and loves herself as much as outside of those spaces.
I’m missing out on this particular bit of Lemmy Lore, did something happen?
It only really impacted me and a few others on Blahaj/196. She “swore off” the rest of Lemmy (still has it, still uses it) and said that being on Hexbear was better for her than other spaces online, and anyone disagreeing, even other trans women, were all wrong.
I don’t understand why someone would downvote you or why this opinion would cause an impact of any kind? People say all sorts of crazy things online. Was she particularly rude, trollish or baitey?
She thought that the group of trans people that run 196 was somehow enabling transphobia and other horrid things when we constantly removed it.
And when we removed it, she said it was better for communication if kept things up to show the idiots.
And then when I kept it up, she got mad at me for not instantly banning and removing them.
Like everything 196 does was inherently a master plan where we messed with all users just for her.
She’s banned because she constantly went “I can’t wait to leave this place” and never did. So I left the ban note along the lines of “If you want to leave, you can. You’re not, you’re harassing users and defending tankies, so take this time to breath some air.”
Lemmy is not designed to provide reasonably-hardened anonymity in the sort of way that Hyphanet, I2P, or maybe Tor or something like that is.
I would not recommend using Lemmy if I were seriously concerned about government prosecution for content on it.
Lemmy’s a good alternative for something like Reddit.
lavender.ltgc.i2p exists. It’s Lemmy instance avaliable from i2p and tor. But it’s mostly pony instance.
you‘ve never been on hexbear, have you?
All my experiences with hexbear was with their toxic userbase so yes and no :) And I would make sure that it stays that way.
it‘s just a complete uninformed take. Hexbear is pro LGBTQ. And outspokenly so.
I know. That’s why they’re clowns.
ah, hm, because you think they are Putin shills at the same time?
why yes they are
but you never been on the instance?
I’ve heard plenty of “LGBT Rights is wrong because it means forcing Western Values on other cultures” stories from Tankies. It was enough to prove Horseshoe Theory to me.
Rather proves those were Pro-Russia trolls posing as something else
Horseshoe theory, the one where we call countries doing what we do communists to avoid facing our own failures?
I’m unsure what you think a tankie is.
you again. 🤦♂️
Who keeps telling me to log off?
I will NEVER log off!
Someone who supports Imperialism when America/“the West” isn’t doing it. Really, that’s all it boils down to.
I’m also unsure of what you think imperialism is.
Funny. I have a pretty good idea of what you think imperialism is.
Here’s a hint: I think a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine should involve a new referendum organized and monitored by an impartial body (so not one picked by either Russia or NATO) before I was comfortable with Crimea or other parts of Eastern Ukraine joining Russia.
It’s a good compromise because it leaves everyone unhappy.
Or Russia can get the fuck out of Ukraine. Your “compromise” is letting the mugger only take half of your wallet.
Giving concessions to Nazi Germany is how the world let WWII happen in the first place. Russia has been allowed to fuck around for far too much. They should have been stopped when they invaded Georgia. Letting them have parts of Ukraine will only give them time to regroup and possibly invade either Ukraine again or some other nation.
before I was comfortable with Crimea or other parts of Eastern Ukraine joining Russia.
Are you currently in Crimea? Other parts of Ukraine? Is this really your call?
Your “compromise” is letting the mugger only take half of your wallet.
People aren’t property, you don’t get to keep them just because you own them. They have self determination.
Are you currently in Crimea? Other parts of Ukraine? Is this really your call?
No, it’s theirs, which is why I want them to have a choice! I’m the one that wants to let them choose whether they join Russia or stay with Ukraine. You’re the one that wants to hold them against their will if they truly want to leave.
I’d be comfortable with allowing them to do what they want. Why do you not want the same?
Interesting. How about a counter-offer? Russia gets the fuck off the Ukraine, pays reparations, and maybe in a decade or so of being nice the rest of the world starts trading with them.
Ukraine has/had an imperfect government, that doesn’t mean they deserve to be invaded. My government is far far from perfect that doesn’t mean I should be punished with bombs going off on my block and my children kidnapped.
Fuck Putin and fuck his supporters and fuck anyone who both sides this crap. Russia could have sat there and broken their own people forever and no one would have raised a finger to stop it they invaded a neighbor that was zero threat to them. For what? So an elderly despot could enjoy his fantasies of restoring a dead empire.
Interesting. How about a counter-offer? Russia gets the fuck off the Ukraine, pays reparations, and maybe in a decade or so of being nice the rest of the world starts trading with them.
The rest of the world is trading with them. It’s just the NATO bloc that has cut them off, which is now bifurcating the global economy. It’s one of the main reasons for inflation all throughout the West, because our currencies are now not being used by a growing segment of the world economy.
Your counteroffer isn’t happening and if we keep this up things will only get worse. We can’t dictate terms. We have to negotiate.
Ukraine has/had an imperfect government, that doesn’t mean they deserve to be invaded.
Ukraine had a pro-Western revolution/coup that removed Russian allies and replaced them with NATO allies. It doesn’t matter if they “deserve” to be invaded (I don’t think they deserved it, for the record), Russia merely did what was in it’s geopolitical interests.
Fuck Putin and fuck his supporters and fuck anyone who both sides this crap.
Deeply unserious. 😔
