• douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Build it, don’t turn it on, watch all the residents complain about new ailments and conditions caused by the 5G.

    Reveal that it’s never even been powered to really hammer home their ignorant bullshit.

    The cognitively impaired should not be able to do this sort of shit.

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    6 days ago

    Jesus, an entire town falling for unscientific bullshit.

    It’s also not like they’re going to point the antennas straight down at the school. They have directionality. I bet not one RF engineer was consulted.

    I’d like to walk these people through the school with an inductive amplifier probe and let them hear the 60hz hum and its harmonics permeating every hallway and classroom.

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    6 days ago

    The planning board’s decision was based on health concerns due to the possible negative environmental impact of telecommunication on the residents, especially the children studying at the school who could potentially be exposed to electromagnetic radiation.

    Because that surely would be the only cell tower in town.

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    7 days ago

    Ahhh more “health” quacks, I wonder if they also believe the COVID vaccines have 5g chips in them.

    The town felt the residents would be ‘unsafe’ due to radio frequencies and rejected the company’s notion of building the tower on the land.

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      7 days ago

      $5 says when they build it anyway everyone starts complaining about health problems, then they say they haven’t even turned it on yet

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        They’ve definitely done that before, dunno if it was deliberately. They must have somewhat of an idea how long it takes for nocebo to kick in with the local village idiots, if it’s short enough it could actually be a rather good idea to make waiting a bit a general policy. Tank some mild capital and opportunity cost to prevent having to battle in court and the town newspaper? Sounds like a win to me.

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      7 days ago

      Ackshually, being too close to high power radio frequencies isn’t safe. I remember at one base I was stationed at in Afghanistan, there was a smoke spot we all used to take breaks at. For some reason, I started developing really bad headaches and feeling kind of nauseous. I figured I was just acclimating to the local climate or something. After a few weeks, I was up on our building installing one of our satcom dishes on top of it when I noticed something. Right on the other side of the fence of that smoke area, was a ~2m high powered dish pointing just above above where the smoke area was. I pointed this out to the Norwegians that ran the camp and the break area was promptly moved, lol.

      But seriously, I do not understand the anti-5G nutters.

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        7 days ago

        Hell the high power WiFi equipment I installed at my Grandma’s house had warnings about keeping a few feet clear of it when powered on due to health concerns and that’s just WiFi equipment. I can’t imagine the dosage of gnarly from a 2m powered dish.

        ‡ I installed that equipment because she wanted WiFi on all 10 acres of her property and she didn’t want me to install more stations around her property. Now she has the broadcast equipment in her garage with a tape line on the floor like it’s a Goddamned radiation research facility lol

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          7 days ago

          Does it work? I’d be surprised her phone can transmit loud enough to reach the base station.

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            7 days ago

            It works great

            Literally able to us the WiFi in a metal barn 50 yards away on the otherside of a garage

            It doesn’t faff about

            Mowing the field at her place my phone will stay connected to the WiFi basically the whole time, the only WiFi blind spot that I had to fix was on the far side of her property where there’s 2 metal barns, a garage, and a wall of her house between you and the broadcast equipment.

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          Yeesh, I didn’t even know there were consumer grade WiFi transceivers that were strong enough to cover such a massive area. Was it a small farm or just a big property? That had to have been a pretty expensive WiFi system regardless. Did you use Ubiquiti directional access points or something?

          I have a sister that runs a small family farm and she asked my brothers and me (3 of us have IT backgrounds/careers) for viable coverage solutions to their various livestock areas. We settled on just running copper to one barn from her house and broadcasting from there with a few repeaters equipped with trunk channels in order to maintain full duplex.

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            It’s a small farm and yeah it’s Ubiquiti hardware though I don’t think they sell it anymore. The last time I looked through their website I couldn’t find it again.

            Though here’s the Amazon link

            Basically this thing is located on one end of the property and on the other end there’s a nano station hooked up to a router because there was still a WiFi dead zone that she wanted covered. But given that that spot was inside a metal barn on the otherside of another metal barn I wasn’t surprised.

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        7 days ago

        FCC already has regulations on maximum power. These emitters are usually dozens of feet off the ground as well.

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        6 days ago

        Tell them how much power the TV and radio broadcast towers put out and watch them freak out. The analog TV stations ran even higher power than the digital ones do now.

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    7 days ago

    The planning board’s decision was based on health concerns due to the possible negative environmental impact of telecommunication on the residents, especially the children studying at the school who could potentially be exposed to electromagnetic radiation. The town felt the residents would be ‘unsafe’ due to radio frequencies and rejected the company’s notion of building the tower on the land.

    I mean, I think that the planning board is idiotic, but I don’t see why T-Mobile cares enough to fight it. If they don’t build it, okay. It looks like the school in question is right in the middle of town. Then Wanaque is going to have crummy cell coverage. Let them have bad cell coverage and build a tower somewhere else. It’s not like this is the world’s only place that could use better cell coverage. The main people who benefit from the coverage are Wanaque residents. Sure, okay, there’s some secondary benefit to travelers, but if we get to the point that all the dead zones that travelers pass through out there are covered, then cell providers can go worry about places that are determined not to have have cell coverage.

    If I were cell companies, I’d just get together with the rest of the industry and start publishing a coverage score for cities for cell coverage. Put it online in some accessible database format, so that when places like city-data.com put up data on a city, they also show that the city has poor cell coverage and that would-be residents are aware of the fact.