• Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    I have an in-law that’s a teacher, and she says it’s fucking crazy how radicalized some kids are. Her coworkers have dealt with 11 year old boys straight up telling female teachers they don’t have to listen to them because they’re women.

    They’re apparently always talking about shithead influencers like Andrew Tate too, and the ones that aren’t down the pipeline are definitely still heavily exposed to the ideas. Real disturbing shit.

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        2 months ago

        I’m hoping that it’s just the gen z/alpha version of an edgy atheist phase that they outgrow. For what it’s worth she also says a lot of kids are way more chill about LGBT students, including being respectful of pronouns.

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            What other context is there? It’s literally implying that hanging up a copy of the Ten Commandments will groom children into becoming Nazis.

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              The context, my dear daft friend, is forcing religion onto children in public, tax payer funded, schools.

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                Okay, how about a set of non-religious rules of ethics, or at least something all major religious groups can agree upon?

                Don’t steal, don’t lie, don’t murder/use violence, don’t make any unwanted sexual advances, those seem general enough that everyone should be able to agree, no?

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          I’m assuming that you are actually asking this sincerely.

          A pride flag is a symbol of acceptance. It’s saying that it’s okay to be gay. It’s not saying you have to be gay, it’s not saying you have to like that people are gay, just that it’s okay to be gay.

          The ten commandments are rules. It’s not a message saying that it’s okay to be Christian, it’s saying that everyone must follow these rules.

          The second one is authoritarian. It is restricting everybody, even those outside the group who created it. The first one is not authoritarian. Not giving orders to anybody, and not restricting people outside the group that created it.

          I hope that actually answers the question.

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            A pride flag is a symbol of acceptance. It’s saying that it’s okay to be gay. It’s not saying you have to be gay, it’s not saying you have to like that people are gay, just that it’s okay to be gay.

            Well, in the same way you could say that the Ten Commandments are just a symbol of respect. You don’t have to like them, you don’t even have to follow them, but it would be nicer if you did.

            The first one is not authoritarian. Not giving orders to anybody, and not restricting people outside the group that created it.

            Try seeing what happens when someone dares to remove the flag, or even just says in its presence that they don’t like gay people. I bet you the authoritarianism is going to show up real quick.

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              You mean see what happens when someone dares to remove the symbol of acceptance of an entire group?

              It is like removing a sign that says “everybody welcome”. You do that because you think some people are not welcome.

              What do you expect to happen?

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                Ah, the old paradox of tolerance strikes again.

                Your comparison is invalid because clearly, the rainbow flag does NOT mean “everybody is welcome”. It means “everybody who agrees with us about who is welcome is welcome”.

                • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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                  Bro fr doesn’t even understand the point of the “paradox of tolerance” and thinks it’s a weapon in this argument lmao