• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    I think you’re looking at history through rose-colored glasses. Read pretty much any story from those who left the USSR to get a better picture of how life was there. Here are a two that I’ve read:

    • The Persecutor
    • A Backpack, A Bear, and Eight Crates of Vodka

    Feel free to find your own, but I find real stories of people trying to flee more valuable in understanding life in an area than books with economic figures.

    If life was so good there, why did so many try to flee? Leaving was incredibly hard, why was that?

    I personally believe in a dual-economy

    I disagree, but we probably agree more than we disagree.

    For example, I believe in a strong safety net (something like UBI), and believe we should eliminate minimum wages. If you don’t need to work to meet basic needs (food and shelter), you won’t take work unless it improves on that basic set of needs. Maybe that means we’ll increase automation or immigration to fill roles nobody wants, or maybe that means pay will increase. Either way, it shouldn’t be centrally planned.

    I think the lesson from the USSR is that centrally planned economies are repressive, and that we need to come up with better ways of solving the needs of the poor or we’ll have another popular uprising that goes way beyond what anyone actually wanted.

    Socialist policies should be limited, imo, to voluntary associations, like co-ops and private unions. It shouldn’t enter government policy because politicians like power more than actually helping people.

    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      Read pretty much any story from those who left the USSR to get a better picture of how life was there.

      A very unbiased account indeed

      but I find real stories of people trying to flee more valuable in understanding life in an area than books with economic figures.

      I don’t. People for the most part are morons that gulp down ivermectin and bleach enemas by the truckload to make their healing crystals work in time for Sunday church, so they can pray away the gay. People are fickle, and are often at odds with facts. As a trans person I know this well.

      If life was so good there

      That’s the neat part, I never claimed that. The USSR was a shithole, but the user I originally responded to was wrong as well. Two things can be true at once.

      UBI

      Or just nationalize necessities to cut out capitalist middlemen taking a cut. All a UBI of $100 will do is raise prices by $100 because people now have $100 more, and landlords et al. will want those $100. Under capitalism and neoliberalism the rich will always be at the top of the food chain in this manner.

      Socialist policies should be limited, imo, to voluntary associations, like co-ops and private unions.

      So they can be easily crushed by capitalist lobbying in western “”““democracies””".

      I admire neolibs who genuinely want to make things better, and you have my respect for that, but I think you’re just a bit naive and haven’t quite thought everything through.