Four years after the United States-Mexico-Canada trade agreement (USMCA), Mexico and the U.S. face the prospect of cheap Chinese electric vehicles dominating a fast-growing market and undermining GM, Ford, and Tesla.
They’re almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don’t think you’re going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you!
None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the “anique import loophole” doesn’t apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades).
I think you missed the point again. That’s only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you’ll pay tariffs and they’d be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It’s only because they’re 25+ years old that they aren’t subjected to the standard rules on imports.
Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn’t outcompete Ford’s latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s.
Gotta love American “freedom” sometimes. “Oh you can buy any car you want, well except those dirty foreign ones because checks notes they’re totally not up to our safety standards.” -_-
Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that
Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored.
But we’re not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don’t understand why you’re referring to China’s regulations all the time. They are irrelevant.
Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason.
is it hard to… ya know… hypothetically obtain one of these cheaper, mexican imported evs? askin for a huh friend
No, you cant import it. They dont meet safety standards.
I am sick and tired of people claiming that BYD are unsafe They have crash tested better than my current vehicle.
hey shut up we’re in a china bad brigade
Car manufacturers will meet local safety standards, so a BYD sold in the EU is probably going to be safer than a BYD sold in Mexico
Here’s an example with Peugeot
In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don’t maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC.
FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety.
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However, you can import many kei cars and trucks and people are doing it because they’re super cheap.
https://www.eezyimport.com/importing-the-essence-of-japan-a-guide-to-bringing-kei-trucks-and-cars-to-the-usa/
They’re almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don’t think you’re going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you!
They sure look cheap to me:
https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available
None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the “anique import loophole” doesn’t apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades).
Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV.
Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura
I think you missed the point again. That’s only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you’ll pay tariffs and they’d be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It’s only because they’re 25+ years old that they aren’t subjected to the standard rules on imports.
That would be why I said I wasn’t sure if you could import it.
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Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn’t outcompete Ford’s latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s.
Gotta love American “freedom” sometimes. “Oh you can buy any car you want, well except those dirty foreign ones because checks notes they’re totally not up to our safety standards.” -_-
Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that
Do you think this is a Ford Pinto?
Edit: given that you mention crumple zones… A Tesla Cybertruck?
The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind.
And the Cybertruck was…
Safer than any chinese car
What if we elect Trump and he gets rid of safety standards, could we import it then?
No cause he’s also gonna ban evs
Maybe if he forgets half the shit he’s said that directly contradicts the other half, and doesn’t try to nuke a hurricane over Mexico.
You would have go back at least 50 years in safety standards, and thats a little much even if the president had full congressional support behind him
If you want yourself or your house to burn in a lítium battery fire, then sure, go for it.
Source?
China bad, what other source do you need?
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/
https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html
https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/
https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china
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lmao you don’t even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it?
lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla.
It’s an EV problem, not a China problem… Unfortunately
It’s both. China’s lack of regulations make a bad thing worse.
But we’re not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don’t understand why you’re referring to China’s regulations all the time. They are irrelevant.
Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason.
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