Picture shows a pride parade. A group of people are carrying a banner that says “LOCKHEED MARTIN” over a rainbow graphic.

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    Getting wealthy on war profiteering while wrapping yourself in the pride flag. Great, just great…

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      Is there at least any way we can leverage this so that bigots become literally scared of mistreating queer people? Like, if you deliberately misgender someone or use a homophobic slur everyone goes quiet and scatters in different directions because they are anticipating the drone strike.

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        I’d say that it’s better to frame it as; lockheed supports lgbtq+ but lgbtq+ does not support lockheed as long as lockheeds business-model is based on killing people.

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          I know it’s difficult but you don’t speak for everyone that isn’t straight, you don’t get to decide what the whole group thinks.

          Having sex with people of the same gender is not a political position, sexuality does not determine political and moral views. Plenty of gay people have political and moral perspectives which differ from your own and they are still valid in their sexuality.

          Pride should be for everyone who wants to celebrate LGBT, it’s not a political party. Yes that means people you don’t agree with politically get to celebrate too.

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            Right wing queer people aren’t invalid in their identity, they’re just shunned for aiding people who will oppress all of us. Blaire White is a valid woman, but she’s not welcome at pride because she works to make our lives worse for short term gain. Bernie Sanders is cishet, but he’s welcome at pride for being a long time ally of queer rights.

            Pride isn’t for queer people by virtue of their identity; it’s for all people that fight for our right to proudly exist.

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        “My pronouns might be they/them, but yours are about to be were/was.”

        This message brought to you by Lockheed Martin: proudly supporting LGBTQ+ drone pilots worldwide.

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        Oh, people associate queer people with drone strikes, alright. Not as much in the US but there are people around the world (global south, etc) who will take stuff like this at face value and hate queer people because they associate us with the US military. It generally doesn’t work out well for the queer people living there.

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          Not as much in the US but there are people around the world (global south, etc) who will take stuff like this at face value and hate queer people because they associate us with the US military.

          Jesus fucking Christ, imagine believing this.

          Imagine being THIS into apologia for homophobia.

          And then pretending like you never said this, lol.

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        Okay I’m all for equal treatment, but you sound fucking crazy right now. Do you know what you’re actually suggesting? Instilling fear of death in people committing a minor intolerance. That’s not a free society and it sounds like the start of a different monster of an oppressive system.

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    I can’t say if this specific one is authentic but I would not be surprised, as my company does the same: branded pride flags, t-shirts for their LGBTQ+ employees. And I’m torn on this, because I feel a bit bad about the branding aspect of it, but on the other hand the company putting their name to openly support all sexual and gender identities does seem like a good thing to do…

    Yes, the irony of a company that produces more efficient ways of killing people being concerned with social issues does not escape me. But there are employees of the company who apparently support both (and good for them)

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    My first pride experience involved wearing a Kuffiyeh and shouting at my local military contractor’s HR department and the one visibly LGBTQ person as they strolled down the street appalled that people didn’t want them there.

    No pride in genocide,

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    If all of a sudden the white power movement had mass public support, these corpos would have their logos plastered over red, black, and white banners by next week. Fuck em.

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      When the new gay CEO unfairly fires 2000 workers, gay and straight alike 🤑👌

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        Our side you mean the side of imperialism and neocolonialism, of the invasion of Iraq, of the bombing of Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Korea, and the interventionism in Chile, Libya, Iran (Mosaddegh era), and the support of the banana republics? Fuck that, that’s not my side.

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          Agreed, as a Queer person I do not stand with the military industrial complex, nor the politicians that are payed off by them, nor the military that uses their weapons against the innocent.

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            Is it better to be a queer person in a nation with a strong military that respects and integrates queer people, or a queer person in a nation with a weak military that imprisons and sometimes lynches queer people?

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              What’s this nonsense? How does reducing military expenditure lead to imprisonment and lynching of queer people? Is the only thing keeping the Military Industrial Complex from murdering queer people giving the former enough money?

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    Lockheed-Martin doesn’t commit war crimes, the governments you elected or didn’t, do the war crimes. They’re a weapon and aeronautical reasearch, development, and manufacturing company. Building weapons and planes and jets is something every single nation on Earth does (or buy from those that do). This is just as silly as Coca-Cola sponsoring Pride, maybe even more so if you knew what they’ve been up to.

    Corporations are not your friend or ally, rainbow or not. It doesn’t matter what they support because they are all in some way evil. But if people want their support in Pride, why not?

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      The same plant makes missiles for Ukraine and bombs for Israel. Corporate doesn’t care, the governments need to instead.

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    they might … you know … be gay and work at lockheed martin … and got their managers to pay for some shit for pride. maybe could submit expense reports and have the trip paid for …

    there were times when gay people couldn’t work at lockheed martin. i prefer this photo to that.

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      The fact that anyone, let alone LGBTQ+ people, can go to the streets holding a “Lockheed Martin” sign and not get shamed into dropping it, shows we’re failing as a society

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          They also make a motherload of AGMs including hellfires & mavericks which the IDF used exclusively to nuke Gaza and its residents into oblivion.

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            Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn’t get to say who they sell to.

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              OK, so your earlier comment was saying they’re good for sending (selling) weapons to Ukraine. Then you say they can’t be held responsible for the bad things. If they can’t be responsible for the bad, then they also don’t get credit for any good.

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              Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn’t get to say who they sell to.

              Yes, you’ve identified the problem.