• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    5 months ago

    The part where Representative Democracy involves Voting to elect a leader, not just voting as a symbolic gesture.

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      5 months ago

      How is voting only for people you actually want running the country in any way symbolic? Versus just always voting for a color. This is possibly the most ridiculous thing you’ve said to me in the last few weeks.

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        You understate how voting works, right? Like… this was taught to you as some point? Because if You don’t, then I can excuse the ignorance. Otherwise, you really should know better.

        Not voting won’t cancel an election. Someone is STILL getting elected. So you can either go with “genocide Lite,” or SUPER-MEGA-ULTRA-GYRO GENOCIDE 3000 v2.0.

        But you’re getting one or the other regardless. You have the choice to help this country along with those in Palestine from suffering worse.

        And it provenly will be worse.

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          5 months ago

          Oh yes I understand how you think voting works. You go in and pull the lever for whoever the party tells you or you get the stick again. But that’s not a democracy. In a democracy the party bends to the will of the people. Not the people to the party. Or else the Party gets the stick again.

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            Ahh. I get it. You haven’t yet figured out how things work yet. You’re still at that age where you think that you get what you want by simply asking for it, and when reality doesn’t comply- you throw temper tantrums and threaten to take your ball and go home when the other kids don’t play by your rules.

            I think it’s called…. Idealism?

            It’s all good. was the same way when I was young. Granted, I grew up and learned how things work before I could partake in anything too stupid- like… socialism.

            I’m going to just ignore you now as I feel arguing with you is unfair and pointless.

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              5 months ago

              Lmao. Real democracy is a temper tantrum? Are you sure you aren’t trying to stooge for an oligarchy?

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                Real democracy is voting. And I’m not about to be lectured on politics by someone that’s not voting over a single issue they didn’t give two shits about less than a year ago.

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                  5 months ago

                  I never said I’m not voting. I said I’m not voting for Biden. And being forced to vote for someone still isn’t a democracy, no matter how much make up you put on it.

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                    5 months ago

                    Right… all over something you didn’t give a shit about before it became something that could help you get your boy elected.

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        5 months ago

        Because then you’re voting for an outcome that won’t exist, or even no outcome at all, and meanwhile somebody far worse gets elected instead.

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          Dude seems to think that not voting will result in no one being elected. I don’t think they’re teaching this shit in schools anymore.

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          5 months ago

          No. In no world is not voting for someone somehow a vote. You cannot coerce votes and still call it a democracy. The entire point is freedom to vote for your choice.

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            Your votes do decide. The primaries selected Joe Biden in 2020, and this general election is going to be 51:49 in Trumps favor based on polls. We have a choice.