“I expect a semi-dystopian future with substantial pain and suffering for the people of the Global South,” one expert said.

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    6 months ago

    And we’ll do nothing about it because everybody is looking at corporations and their government but not at themselves to change.

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      6 months ago

      Look for the main pollution producers and you’ll be shocked (or not).

      Just a hint: not the individuals.

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        6 months ago

        the main polluters are making products for the individuals you speak of. they don’t exist in a vacuum.

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          It is their responsibility , though it should be at pain of death (of their profits), to innovate in order to supply what we demand sustainability. The problem is they are not compelled to do so by any mechanism - regulatory, or market driven. And worse than that , the biggest and most culpable perpetrators of these crimes against humanity (and all other living species present and future) have actively campaigned to misinform, divide and conquer, politicize, deflect and distract (including shifting all responsibility to the individual) since they’ve known for decades that this is coming and when they alone had the means and capital to adapt, innovate, research and develop solutions for the good of all, including themselves if they’d only planned for something other than their own pockets this financial quarter.

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        No, I just realize that corporations and governments are not motivated to do anything. I know that what I’m saying shifts the blame, but realistically it’s the only way.

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          But people are even less motivated and we should take away their plastic bottles and cars with laws. Individuals will always choose whats more comfortable for them, thats why we’re in this shit. Capitalists just profit off of it.

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            Counterpoint: There are millions of vegans taking the initiative to do the right thing when corporations and government obviously will not.

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              Millions is not billions and all those vegans still work at offices, buy electronic devices, drive cars and pollute in more ways than I can imagine. The problem with climate is that we’ve grown extremely accustomed to the comforts of our extremely unsustainable lives and we’re so far gone into environmental destruction that the steps we would all need to take to stop it are already extreme, and they are only getting extreme…er.

              I’m a vegetarian myself, I never ever buy plastic bottles and Im generally conscious about my impact on the environment, but without basically detaching myself from society I can’t even put a dent in the destruction my lifestyle is bringing.

              Most people aren’t even vegetarians and still buy plastic bottles, they will never stop until the society tells them to. We need to fundamentally shit (a typo, but I’ll allow it) our civilization to a completely different mode to even stop deepening our graves, but guess what. We can’t even fix the fucking housing market so we’re simply doomed. The corporations will still hoard their pointless profits and we’ll get annual new fucking iphones until the day we won’t even be able to grow our food.

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                If people don’t want to change, how in the world do you think they’ll let a [democrat, republican, etc] politician force them to? Do you think cocacola will save us? The answer is not fun.