• azertyfun@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    Yeah sorry but that’s not the same. Efficient teaching is very highly dependent on nonverbal cues to properly align yourself to the person you’re teaching to. On top of that screen sharing software is clunky and necessarily has latency, which makes interrupting much more disruptive which is most detrimental when there needs to be a bidirectional high-throughput stream of information.

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      Efficient teaching is very highly dependent on nonverbal cues to properly align yourself to the person you’re teaching to.

      I would say that is highly dependent on the type of learner you are.

      My daughter is in online school right now. Her teachers usually can’t see her because most of them don’t require her to have her camera on. She often can’t see them because she’s doing screen sharing. She’s getting better grades than she’s ever had before.

      On top of that screen sharing software is clunky and necessarily has latency

      I don’t know when the last time you used it was, but this is just not true anymore. It’s as easy as clicking ‘share screen’ in Zoom or Google Meet and the latency is so low that it’s essentially not noticeable.

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        I work 80 % remotely, I know what I’m talking about. MS Teams is by far the worst latency-wise, but even on the best software you can’t get over the fact that there will be a 200-300 ms jitter buffer.

        Ever had the “yeah I- so we - OK go ahea- sorry -”? That’s what I’m talking about.

        Good on your daughter if she learns well remotely, but literally everyone I’ve talked to who was in education during COVID had an awful experience. Although I suppose in the school system it doesn’t matter as much since with 20-600 students per teacher there’s not much back-and-forth going on anyway.

        Remote work is great for focusing, it’s great for async workflows (slack/discord/email/jira), it’s great for solo work, but it’s just plain inferior for certain highly collaborative workflows like 1-on-1 teaching. There’s enough good reasons to work remotely that we don’t have to lie about the rest.

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          Ever had the “yeah I- so we - OK go ahea- sorry -”? That’s what I’m talking about.

          You mean the exact same thing that has happened with telephones since the 19th century?

          I don’t know how old you are, but I am guessing anyone here over 40 can tell you about how the training they were given was “read this book and get started” more than once.

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            Right, and last I checked people weren’t remote working too much before the 21st century.

            If your job doesn’t want to train you properly that’s on them, but assuming all parties involved are acting in good faith I will always go to the office to train a junior employee.

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              Right, and last I checked people weren’t remote working too much before the 21st century.

              And yet, they still didn’t need a person training them to do their jobs.

              I will always go to the office to train a junior employee.

              As I said, not everyone learns well that way and maybe you shouldn’t assume they will.