• MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Survivor bias is a thing. One car not having issues doesn’t mean all or majority of them don’t. Besides I think people have their expectations messed up. For a 60k$ car it has to be perfect, not just “not having issues” because in ICE world that amount of money buys you some seriously good car.

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      7 months ago

      Survivor bias is a thing.

      Yes, but normally also the fact that only who has problems is vocal about them.

      One car not having issues doesn’t mean all or majority of them don’t.

      True, but also does not means that the majority of them had problems.

      For a 60k$ car it has to be perfect, not just “not having issues” because in ICE world that amount of money buys you some seriously good car.

      Good luck with this.

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          7 months ago

          My ICE car (same price range of the Tesla 3 and Y) had so many issues that make me consider to change it more than a couple of times, so maybe you at least need to not be unlucky.

          What I agree with you is that, normally, a 60k $ car from an well-established brand is way less prone to have quality issues than a car in the same prince range from a brand that 20 years ago did not even exist but I am sure enough that if we look at the same number of 60k $ cars from other brand with the same thoroughness we use to find defects in a Tesla, we probably will end up with roughly the same number of defects.

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            7 months ago

            And I wouldn’t have forgiven those cars either. 60k$ is a lot of money and you need to get a lot of car for it. Just getting a vehicle that’s reliable and will serve you well for years requires no more than 15k$ maybe 20k$. So everything above that is luxury, be it in number of seating or quality or something else.

            For 60k$, you can get:

            • Mercedes-Benz E-Class 2024;
            • Jaguar XF 2024;
            • BMW 5 Series 2024;
            • Audi A6 2024.

            You know when I’d go for Tesla over any of these? Never. More to the point you can get EVs from most of these manufacturers at about same price range. And rest assured panels are not misaligned there or car scrapes tires off after 6 months or that steering wheel falls apart after three months of use. But if nothing else matters, distribution network and service centers these manufacturers have is huge so servicing your car and finding parts is easy, or at least significantly easier. With Tesla you can only go to Tesla. There’s no authorized dealers or service centers.