If I was in charge, I’d make some changes to the job process
- you must post the salary
- if you post a job and it’s determined there was no intent to fill the role, you must pay every applicant a year’s salary. Whistleblowers also get a payout.
- making the applicant fill out a form that duplicates information on the resume (eg: name, phone) is illegal.
- asking for the applicant’s address is illegal. They were going to use this for racism. You can ask about time zone and willingness to commute to the office
- employers must pay workers for their commute at their normal hourly rate.
- Ghosting an applicant (no response without a rejection or hire for a month) results in a fine. Pay the applicant 3 months salary.
All other fines now scale with wealth of the perpetrator
I agree that an address shouldn’t be necessary for a job application aside from a possible way to contact if email or phone aren’t available. I’m just confused how an address can be used to be racist? This isn’t the 1960’s. There’s no more segregation and people can live wherever they afford.
This isn’t the 1960’s. There’s no more segregation and people can live wherever they afford.
Redlining is less of a thing, but there are still areas that are predominantly populated by different ethnic groups. Furthermore, the consequences of housing segregation are still felt today. It’s not like the people who were forced to live in “undesirable” neighborhoods in the 1960s got reshuffled around.
To say “there’s no more segregation” is naive.
And even furthermore, it opens the door for unfair judgements like “oh they live in a bad neighborhood”, which might not be first order racist, but are still undesirable. There’s no need for it. Only unfair things can come from the information.
Redlining and segregation are illegal and if you come across an instance of it should be reported. Breaking everything down to racism is naive and not helping move things away from focusing on what actually keeps people segregated, like socioeconomic status.
Things being illegal doesn’t mean they don’t happen. And, again, if people were redlined in 1960 and now a neighborhood is mostly black, that didn’t magically go away in 2026. The consequences are lasting.
Furthermore, as an individual, fighting more powerful institutions (eg: banks, the government) is not trivial. Shrugging it off with “you should report is” is technically true, but not a complete solution nor especially practical.
Breaking everything down to racism is naive
Well that’s not what’s happening in this discussion, so okay
focusing on what actually keeps people segregated, like socioeconomic status.
Deeply tied into race, historically and presently.
Regardless, the point stands that there’s few to no good reasons for an employer to know your address during the application process, and a lot of bad ones.
I agree with the way you stated your last point. Hiring should be based on knowledge, aptitude, and/or effort. Thanks for the discussion
I seriously doubt 1000 fake job listings will make any kind of difference. 10-100X would be needed to actually make a dent.
correct but hopefully people realize these sites are just garbage and give up on them altoghether… because waiting on the gov to hold them accountable is too much to ask
I think plenty of people know that but usually don’t have any way of avoiding them when they need income. Businesses are the ones that need to realize.
Sure, but what’s the point of going to these sites (as a job seeker) when they are just loaded with garbage. You are wasting your time there
Some people don’t see any other options for themselves and are able to convince themselves that maybe they’ll find the needle in the garbage pile
Also, some people live in shithole red states where they need to prove to some state agency they’re spending so many hours a week looking for work or their healthcare gets shut off. I think you’re right about these sites being a waste but I also think you wouldn’t ever be able to explain that to a lot of the caseworkers out there who could be deciding your fate.
Good points, there is more nuance to this that I initially gave credit for
whenever I see a court remedy I think about all the work that went into getting it and I’m so disgusted. using laws is disgusting and if they do what you want without taking a hundred times the work of whatever solution they allow, you’re probably evil.
Hex, dawg, people have to find work somewhere, my last 4 jobs have all been through Linkedin
I get contacted by at least 2 scam recruiters every week. It’s a good thing most of them are stupid.
Though with the assistance of AI they’re getting better at impersonation, and standing up shit like clone sites is easier.
Be vigilant.
We need to go further. All jobs and hiring needs to be tracked. All postings in one single place. Fake jobs, no hire jobs, etc; all tracked and heavily fined. The system has your profile on hand and auto-applies to jobs that match FOR you. Companies MUST call qualified candidates and state the pay clearly and plainly upon first contact. Anyone trying to claim they can’t find workers has to answer why the thousands of qualified applicants were ignored.
This just sounds like socialism with extra steps. Let’s just got straight to state mandated jobs for state mandated pay.
Cool now do the rest, ban one-way video interviews, and force them to post actual salaries
Wow, a thousand! So like… 0.0001% of the fake job posts? Great job, economy saved.
no fines for any of these companies? of course not
Wait…Monster is still around?!?
