• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    He already is, this is all open? They will include people’s numbers in their “awesome wave of the future” and I don’t want that. The more people ignore them and isolate them, the more they won’t have power over everyone.

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      11 months ago

      What are “people’s numbers”? What power would they have if we didn’t defederate?

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        11 months ago

        Dude, facebook is evil, we all know that. I have no idea how they plan to take over the fediverse, but they’re planning it. Do you remember when they first announced and then everyone suddenly started calling it the threadiverse? They have plans, hold on to your seat.

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          I’ve been under the impression people started using the term threadiverse to describe the Lemmy/Kbin side of the fediverse because we exist in Reddit style threads and interaction with microblog style fediverse posts is obtuse at best. We’re practically in a separate bubble over here, and that was the cause of the new term.

          Edit: The first time I saw the term used was when FediDB made a page for tracking Lemmy+Kbin users

          Edit 2: Archive.org link to the Threadiverse page from June 15th, half a month before the Threads name leaked.

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            11 months ago

            I hadn’t heard it once until threads started up. I didn’t join until the great migration, so maybe earlier people used it, but I had only seen fediverse to describe it.

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              I think FediDB coined the term. It definitely existed before Threads had an official name though.

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                11 months ago

                I don’t disagree because I don’t know. Regardless, I hadn’t seen anyone use it until threads started up.

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                  Even then though, people only use it to describe this part of the fediverse, which Threads won’t be a part of.

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          What is the worse case scenario for me, a person living on kbin? What the heck could they do to ever possibly affect us when we can just pull the plug on them anytime?

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            11 months ago

            by user @OtakuAltair@lemm.ee

            If there’s one company you should preemptively block, it’s Facebook. They have a track record of destroying anything and everything they touch and there is zero reason to think it won’t be the same this time. From this post:

            They aren’t some new, bright-eyed group with no track record. They’re a borderline Machiavellian megacorporation with a long and continuing history of extremely hostile actions:

            • Helping enhance genocides in countries
            • Openly and willingly taking part in political manipulation (see Cambridge Analytica)
            • Actively have campaigned against net neutrality and attempted to make “facebook” most of the internet for members of countries with weaker internet infra - directly contributing to their amplification of genocide (see the genocide link for info)
            • Using their users as non-consenting subjects to psychological experiments.
            • Absolutely ludicrous invasions of privacy - even if they aren’t able to do this directly to the Fediverse, it illustrates their attitude.
            • Even now, they’re on-record of attempting to get instance admins to do backdoor discussions and sign NDAs.

            source

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              This is a lot of text about Meta being evil which nobody disputes. But you didn’t answer the question.

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                  There’s one comment speaking about EEE which regurgitated talking points from that one blog post, with author missing the point on why XMPP was unsuccessful. Nothing else but it could be because my instance doesn’t federate with some weirdo instances.