• Apollo@sh.itjust.works
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    Sure what I said sounds like that, if you ignore the first half of the comment you are replying to.

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      1 year ago

      Sure what I said sounds like that, if you ignore the first half of the comment you are replying to.

      Here’s the first and only sentence before the sentence I replied to …

      The principle of self determination is in the UN charter that you keep erroneously saying suggests the UK should hand over the islands because of.

      That has nothing to do with the questions I asked …

      The other side of the coin of self determination is having the force to ensure that. Britain holds the ground

      Russian holds the ground in parts of Ukraine, does that mean Russia should keep said land?

      Does the Israeli settlements in the occupied lands make the land Israeli land?

      I was asking specifically about your statement about “Britain holds the ground”.

      My point is just holding the ground is not enough to legally/ethically claim the land, especially if you’ve kicked out the people on said land that used to be there.

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        So you do struggle with reading english then yeah? Or is it the concept of self determination that confuses you?

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          So you do struggle with reading english then yeah?

          So, I’ve been nothing but polite with you while discussing this. Could you try returning that courtesy.

          Or is it the concept of self determination that confuses you?

          Self-determination is one point of many, in making the determination, and has nothing to do with the issue of bodies occupying a space that is in contest for ownership, hence my other examples I asked you about.

          The other side of the coin of self determination is having the force to ensure that. Britain holds the ground

          Russian holds the ground in parts of Ukraine, does that mean Russia should keep said land?

          Does the Israeli settlements in the occupied lands make the land Israeli land?

          I was asking specifically about your statement about “Britain holds the ground”.

          My point is just holding the ground is not enough to legally/ethically claim the land, especially if you’ve kicked out the people on said land that used to be there.

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            My point is just holding the ground is not enough to legally/ethically claim the land, especially if you’ve kicked out the people on said land that used to be there.

            And since this didn’t happen on the Falklands, your point is completely asinine.

            Self determination requires two things - the whole determination part, in case of the falklands the referendum held and overseen by international observers; and the means to uphold that self determination against those who would ignore it (in this case, argentina).