• caboose2006@lemm.ee
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      21 hours ago

      Gain nothing? They pay more in federal taxes than they recieve. They’d probably be better off

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        20 hours ago

        And they would have to turn around and spend it on their own military because they would lose the military that all 50 states funded together. I never used to be believe in the threat of eastern aggression, but it becomes more and more obvious every day that they can never see the USA bleed. And that’s in the assumption the hyper-aggressive Trump admin does nothing about a secession.

        Plus, they’ve already got more than enough justification to withhold federal income taxes and tariffs, the sitting president is violating the constitution and wasn’t even eligible to run in the first place.

        Instead of carving ourselves up and removing blue seats from congress we could be uniting against Trump.

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          20 hours ago

          They have a military. It’s called the national guard. But yeah the question of secession was settled back in the 1860s.

          Short of a massive and sustained general strike or a violent revolution nothing is changing in this country dem or republican. Even the democrats are right wing.

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            19 hours ago

            The national guard is mobilized to address state emergencies and support the military abroad. Any state’s national guard is woefully inadequate to defend against foreign threats

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              A ton of Iraqi freedom was done by NoGo units…

              They were running all convoys, for example.

              That said, when you cut out the imperialism, and focus on defense, we’d only need like 10% of the current budget, nationally, anyways.

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      18 hours ago

      As much as I hate Newsom and the democrats, secession from a lunatic presidency that is ready to tank the global market for the interest of the rich elite would be a big step forward for Americans. Trump wants big government. He wants the entire country to adhere to the right wing populists and ultra rich. Yea no I’d say the Californians gain a fuck ton from leaving all that.

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        20 hours ago

        What Trump is doing is illegal, there is plenty of justification for California to simply respond by doing equally illegal things like denying the feds and withholding taxes.

        Removing Cali congressmen is the opposite of opposing his admin.