Israel didn’t purposefully attack Americans because they are Americans. It’s not much, but it’s a difference.
All of those descriptors except for the slavery one apply to israel and half of Americans give them unequivocal support.
And? That doesn’t dispute anything I said.
First of all, the UN would gladly vote Israel out of existence.
Second of all, I do not necessarily oppose a ceasefire. My point was that letting the Houthis get away with attacking us is stupid and, more importantly, politically indefensible.
They aren’t attacking the ships because they’re American, they are attacking any ship that passes through there, it’s not like Chinese ships get a pass because they’re not arming Israel. They are instituting a blockade, the same as Israel is doing in gaza, if anyone crosses there line, regardless of nationality, they will shoot.
letting the houthis get away with attacking us is stupid and, more importantly, politically indefensible.
And bombing an apartment building, when again they haven’t attacked us since the ceasefire, is morally indefensible. This wasn’t the houthis decapitating and American on video and every major outlet covering it. This was all in response to a threat, the same threat that Israel has for anyone trying to get food in to Gaza. If you asked your average American what have the houthis done lately they’d respond “nothing i know of” and they’d be right. No one was asking for this strike except for the brain dead fox News audience who think everyone in the middle east is a terrorist.
If anything that’s worse. And it is not, in fact, part of any international obligation with regards to genocide.
So, they’ve attacked us in the past, they’ve promised to attack us again, they’re pretty much the worst people alive and you think leaving them to make good on their threats is a vote winnter?
They’ve attacked us in the past, they’ve promised to attack us again applies to a lot of countries. If we bombed all of them we’d be embroiled in countless wars across multiple continents with no exit strategy and no real objective besides revenge. Do you think multiple forever wars is a vote winner?
Let’s switch from Israel, even though your description applies to them, and look at one of our traditional enemies, the taliban. Do you think a majority of Americans would be for bombing apartment buildings in Afghanistan again because of a threat? No, because they’ve seen this play out before and it doesn’t end well.
How would you justify leaving Afghanistan in the first place with this logic? The taliban still exist, and still threaten us and have killed a lot more then the houthis. Was finally leaving them alone a vote loser, or was it the stated policy of the last two winning presidential campaigns?
Ask your average American who was killed by the houthis, Iran etc. And they wouldn’t know. If these were the ultra patriotic people dead set on avenging their honor and voting out any politician trying to stop them, the names of those martyrs would be on everyone’s tongue. If you ask a Palestinian or Israeli who the other side has killed they’d rattle off a dozen names and go on a tirade of how evil the other side is, that is a people who want war. Americans don’t really care about the houthis and dont really want war.
The average person doesn’t care about this. Show me an article outside of fox News calling for this strike. Show me a viral social media post calling for whoever this guy was to be killed. Show me a protest calling for harsh treatment of terrorists. Show me people cheering for the justice this strike has brought after the fact.
Hell, Show me a post you made before this complaining about the houthis and how America needs to act.
No one was asking for this, and no one would’ve noticed if we didn’t do it.
My position of not bombing the houthis after they made a threat? No one has explicitly made that stance, but outside of the chud group chat no one was calling for this strike either. Because nobody cares, so we can assume they would be fine with letting the threat go and focusing on other things. If they weren’t fine with “letting the terrorist get away with it” they wouldve said so.
If your asking about non-interventionism in general that’s a common belief most left leaning politicians have that aren’t captured by the military industrial complex. Bernie sanders supports limiting our drone program.
“What you can argue is that there are times and places where drone attacks have been effective,” he added.
“There are times and places where they have been absolutely counter-effective and have caused more problems than they have solved. When you kill innocent people, what the end result is that people in the region become anti-American who otherwise would not have been.”
I don’t think he would approve of bombing an apartment complex to kill a couple houthis. But who cares what he says, he’s just one of the most popular democrats out there right now and leading rallies with 10s of thousands of people in attendance.
Israel didn’t purposefully attack Americans because they are Americans. It’s not much, but it’s a difference.
First of all, the UN would gladly vote Israel out of existence. Second of all, I do not necessarily oppose a ceasefire. My point was that letting the Houthis get away with attacking us is stupid and, more importantly, politically indefensible.
They aren’t attacking the ships because they’re American, they are attacking any ship that passes through there, it’s not like Chinese ships get a pass because they’re not arming Israel. They are instituting a blockade, the same as Israel is doing in gaza, if anyone crosses there line, regardless of nationality, they will shoot.
And bombing an apartment building, when again they haven’t attacked us since the ceasefire, is morally indefensible. This wasn’t the houthis decapitating and American on video and every major outlet covering it. This was all in response to a threat, the same threat that Israel has for anyone trying to get food in to Gaza. If you asked your average American what have the houthis done lately they’d respond “nothing i know of” and they’d be right. No one was asking for this strike except for the brain dead fox News audience who think everyone in the middle east is a terrorist.
If anything that’s worse. And it is not, in fact, part of any international obligation with regards to genocide.
So, they’ve attacked us in the past, they’ve promised to attack us again, they’re pretty much the worst people alive and you think leaving them to make good on their threats is a vote winnter?
They’ve attacked us in the past, they’ve promised to attack us again applies to a lot of countries. If we bombed all of them we’d be embroiled in countless wars across multiple continents with no exit strategy and no real objective besides revenge. Do you think multiple forever wars is a vote winner?
Let’s switch from Israel, even though your description applies to them, and look at one of our traditional enemies, the taliban. Do you think a majority of Americans would be for bombing apartment buildings in Afghanistan again because of a threat? No, because they’ve seen this play out before and it doesn’t end well.
How would you justify leaving Afghanistan in the first place with this logic? The taliban still exist, and still threaten us and have killed a lot more then the houthis. Was finally leaving them alone a vote loser, or was it the stated policy of the last two winning presidential campaigns?
Ask your average American who was killed by the houthis, Iran etc. And they wouldn’t know. If these were the ultra patriotic people dead set on avenging their honor and voting out any politician trying to stop them, the names of those martyrs would be on everyone’s tongue. If you ask a Palestinian or Israeli who the other side has killed they’d rattle off a dozen names and go on a tirade of how evil the other side is, that is a people who want war. Americans don’t really care about the houthis and dont really want war.
Your comparison is wrong because we aren’t occupying Yemen.
The average person does not want us to bow and scrape before terrorists.
The average person doesn’t care about this. Show me an article outside of fox News calling for this strike. Show me a viral social media post calling for whoever this guy was to be killed. Show me a protest calling for harsh treatment of terrorists. Show me people cheering for the justice this strike has brought after the fact.
Hell, Show me a post you made before this complaining about the houthis and how America needs to act.
No one was asking for this, and no one would’ve noticed if we didn’t do it.
Show me five people who support your position that have won elections in the United States.
My position of not bombing the houthis after they made a threat? No one has explicitly made that stance, but outside of the chud group chat no one was calling for this strike either. Because nobody cares, so we can assume they would be fine with letting the threat go and focusing on other things. If they weren’t fine with “letting the terrorist get away with it” they wouldve said so.
If your asking about non-interventionism in general that’s a common belief most left leaning politicians have that aren’t captured by the military industrial complex. Bernie sanders supports limiting our drone program.
I don’t think he would approve of bombing an apartment complex to kill a couple houthis. But who cares what he says, he’s just one of the most popular democrats out there right now and leading rallies with 10s of thousands of people in attendance.
Bernie Sanders does not support the Houthis.