I mean, we all hear about people thinking what they think only because the people around them think it too. So how do you avoid doing that?

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    Read books, it’s the poor people version of traveling to broaden your mind. Sometimes even more effective since some things cannot be experienced irl. They don’t need to be recent, the old classics are good. Think about the moral/ethics/philosophies you want to live your life on, then you can interpretate events according to those.

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    If someone is proposing a simple solution to a complex problem, there is a good chance they don’t understand it or they are trying to control your opinions.

    If you receive some information (no matter how) and you feel a strong emotion, be extra skeptical.

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    I have a couple good rules of thumb.

    What are the experts saying? Not the loud people, the experts. Incredible news would have them talking.

    Would the reverse of an idea also be true? If the president is responsible for high gas prices, do people agree he’d be responsible for low ones?

    Does the idea try to make me feel? If there’s clear emotional intent in a story, the facts are probably being shaped to fit the narrative.

    Do I see evidence of the widespread problem here? Should I? I remember an article about a couple who flew short hops across the US, and they said at every stop the story was “things are horrible everywhere, we’re just lucky they’re good here.”

    Do I hear people using the same talking points, but they get confused when you ask for details? Often this is a story made to make you feel, not think.

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    Learn, understand, challenge, repeat.

    Learn as much as you can about all sorts of topics, even if you don’t have specific plans for those topics

    Learn enough that you don’t just know the facts, but that you actually understand why things are the way they are. You should be able to predict things you haven’t yet learned if you understand the concepts. If you don’t understand something yet, keep learning.

    Learn your fundamentals: language skills, math, logic, statistics, the science of research, history, politics, basic psychology, and the physics of whatever realm you’re operating in (meaning that in today’s day and age, you should learn about both real-world physics and about how information flows on the Internet).

    A lot of people don’t know how to teach themselves, so it’s probably important to point out that learning to do so effectively is a big part of thinking for yourself. Learning how information is presented, as well as what’s often left unsaid, is important. Learn how to read graphs and charts and statistics. Improve your information literacy: Learn how to find credible sources, how to judge the credibility of a source, and what “credible” actually means. It doesn’t mean infallible.

    As a general rule, don’t accept a fact until you have multiple credible confirmations of it. That might not be possible, but when information comes from untrustworthy sources, remember that. Learn the difference between something that you’ve learned and accepted and something that you’ve just heard on social media a few dozen times. This is easier when you have an understanding of what you’re learning. True things fit in better with other true things.

    Don’t assume things are false just because the source isn’t credible, either. Just do extra research to verify. Do your own experiments to confirm, if possible.

    Sometimes you’ll realize something you’ve accepted might be wrong, possibly because it conflicts with something else that you learned. When facts don’t add up, challenge them. You’re not infallible. Replacing a fact you accepted long ago isn’t a failure; it’s a victory. Many people are incapable of doing so.

    Learn to distinguish between facts, inferences, theories, and opinions. (Note that established, accepted scientific theories often fall into the “fact” category.) Facts are verifiable. Inferences are based on facts; they’re evidence-based conclusions that can help to build theories. Theories are explanations, and they can be disproven but haven’t been proven (else they would be facts). Information presented as facts can be false. Theories and inferences can be poorly formed, even if the facts are sound (and especially when they are not). “Opinion” is a word people use to defend flawed theories. If the opinion isn’t a preference, there’s a good chance it isn’t an opinion at all and is just intentional misinformation. “You can’t argue with my opinion” isn’t applicable when the “opinion” is provably false - then it’s just a failed fact, inference, or theory. And even when it is an opinion, it can still be criticized.

    Learn about logical fallacies. Even if you don’t call out the person using them, try to notice them in the wild, both by people you agree with and people you disagree with. But especially by people you agree with. Learn how to notice other ways people are misled.

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      to add a more narrowed-down starting point, i recommend everyone to look into epistemology. much of this follows from there

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      I might add, “become comfortable with uncertainty”. Because nothing drowns you in a swamp of bullshit like an excessive need for certainty.

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    By constantly asking “why”. Certainly, by asking why something is popular and ponder that for as long as needed until you come to a reasonable conclusion.

    You may never conclude why some things are the way they are but by keeping this in mind, you’ll pick up the habit of thinking independently.

    Actually, one of the things I’m always wondering is how I became an independent thinker. I have a hard time understanding how so many people are so gullible and what I can do to help them.

    I can’t help by attributing my independent thinking to being somewhat isolated and poor as a child. I’m self sufficient and reject most things that are popular.

    I also worked in advertising as a graphic artist for a few years. It became apparent that I am not cut out for thinking like everyone else. Advertising still annoys the heck out of me.

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    There is the theory that we feel emotions first and then we think only to justify the emotion.

    This would imply that it isn’t the thinking that needs to be managed but the emotions.

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      Although some feelings are malleable through thinking, but yeah, others come from (and can only be worked by) different places (including the health of our body).

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        Emotions aren’t good (or bad). They’re often like a heuristic. Fast but inaccurate. This is great when it’s like “a bear wandered into the house” and emotions say “RUN” and cold logic would be like “what? Why? How?” until you get mauled. It’s not good when it’s like “climate change makes me feel bad so I don’t believe in it”

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          heuristic

          That’s a very fancy word, and I’m sure you’re proud of using it.

          Now can you tell me how this word has importance in your everyday life?

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      But don’t consider that maybe the migrants really are the biggest problem just because so many others are convinced.

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    Pay attention to when people tell you what to think and be extra suspicious of that kind of behavior. Question everything. Trust but verify.

    Now don’t fall into the trap of just being a contrarian. Just because everyone is telling you the same thing doesn’t mean it’s ALWAYS some big conspiracy. It could actually just be the right thing.

    Basically just be curious and don’t form opinions purely based off people you look up to or admire.

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    This is what helps me with that:

    1. A healthy amount of Scepticism is always good.
    2. Fact check any new information by yourself and make your own conclusion.
    3. Discuss your ideas with others and make questions (just like you are doing right now).
    4. Be open to be corrected if you’re wrong in something.
    5. NEVER assume you know everything you need to know about anything.
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    Stop comparing yourself to others. You are you, and you can’t possibly please or displease everyone anyway

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    I got old and bitter and now no longer feel impacted by the people around me. It feels quite freeing to finally be myself in any situation.

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    Your default should be try to disprove, or at least verify any claims.

    And surround yourself with good people.

    I’ve spoken to a lot of people who can’t think independently and I can’t figure out what’s wrong with them tbh. I understand it on paper. Cognitive dissonance, emotive narratives re-enforced by echo chambers that have blinded them. But how do you deny basic facts when they’re explained to you 1 on 1. I used to think they were lying but it’s clear to me now most aren’t.

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      Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort people experience when holding conflicting cognitions. It is a signal that our thinking doesn’t make sense and we need to change something to make that feeling go away. It is not hypocrisy or having contradictory thoughts. It’s a feeling we all experience. IMO exploring our cognitive dissonance is a useful way to better critical thinking. The people you are talking about are probably not experiencing cognitive dissonance as they have long since rationlised it away.

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        Yes but it’s still there when I reintroduce some rational. I can see the anger emerge as I get closer to hitting their internal contradictions. Mike Pence and his words on what happened on Jan6 is an easy shortcut to constitution-loving patriots who didn’t have an issue with the coup.