i’m honestly too old to know what the fuck this means. is this tiktok leetspeak genz 67 stuff?

i swear, these young kids putting down the pipe and picking up the TikTok have confused the hell out of me

It’s shocking to me someone would want to watch this.

Harry Potter was never good. Why would someone even want to read a Harry Potter book obtained before 2020???

The TERF stuff didn’t make Harry Potter bad. It always sucked, and people only realized after the TERF stuff.

Are the parties young people have nowadays just less wild because everyone has cameras? Or do people mostly party at clubs and bars and so they expect it to be on camera? Or do people not party as much?

When I was younger and before cell phone cameras of high quality were everywhere, parties were filled with debauchery and drugs like out in the open.

Is this why Gen Z thinks hedonism is cringe?

Yes, that is clearly literally what I said, right?

I neither need nor want your mythological blessings. Go find a flat earther who will appreciate them.

There are plenty of people in LA but sometimes artists or beautiful people travel in similar circles and people bump into each other. “BooBees” could be a film editor, or a mixing engineer, someone in fashion, or someone just hot enough or connected enough to get invited to parties in the hills. It’s not that far fetched.

There’s the Hollywood that Hollywood wants the public to see (to maximize money spent) and then the real Hollywood/LA and they can be really shockingly different. The machine will lie elaborately in convoluted ways to increase money slightly, and people in the industry are happy to go along, and generally so is everyone else in LA. Plenty of open secrets exist. It’s not even out of greed necessarily, but people in LA want to make more art which often requires more money to get made, so they will do anything to expand the pie.

This guys slept with his best friend’s wife and then blamed it on alcoholism. What kind of piece of shit do you have to be to do something like that? It’s so treacherous and lacking in empathy to sleep with a best friend’s wife that there has to be a fundamental absence of conscience; and the fact that it wasn’t illegal and he could blame it on alcoholism meant he was able to sweep his vileness under the rug for voter’s to overlook.

This vote doesn’t surprise me. This vote should surprise no one. Gavin Newsom has always been terrible.

This is also an example of how money and power have infected progressivism. If the public really had a real selection of candidates instead of curated talking heads, this situation wouldn’t be occurring. The power of wealthy donors or publicity from privately owned rich media conglomerates ensures that usually only the pre-selected are in the public sphere.

Okay, so then he’s an Anti-Zionist and he may or may not be antisemitic after the racist costume and subsequent apology.

I don’t think that person was mad, I think they were pointing out why they think it’s not illustrative of Mackelmore being antisemitic.

It’s a pretty reasonable look at the context…

Does “from the river to the sea” mean ethnic cleansing of Israelis? I didn’t know that.

My limited knowledge of the situation is Jewish people left the area due to conflict, thousands of years passed, the Holocaust happened, British somehow “negotiated” their return (under threat of violence to the then-local population) and displaced Palestinians but Palestinians had some land, it just wasn’t as much, Jewish people were attacked and then retaliated by taking more land in the 7 days war, some Palestinians were mad at Israel and tried to attack Israel with rockets and other attacks, Israel then put tremendous and horrible restrictions on all Palestinians that were unreasonable and terrible and it just existed like that (and this part of the situation I believe is greatly understated as being a main cause of this situation), Palestinians elected Hamas that wanted to kill all Jewish people, Hamas killed and kidnapped a bunch of Jewish teenagers at a rave, many of whom were having fun and probably on ecstasy when the attack happened which in some ways is more horrifying, and then also killed a bunch of Israelis in settlements, including babies, then Israel retaliated against Hamas by in theory targeting specific Hamas members but also committing a huge massive number of war crimes, many of which were documented on TikTok, and then TikTok was bought out to try to hide the war crimes and Jewish allies tried to do things like dismantle or weaken the International Criminal Court, then people who were against war crimes were fired from work and penalized for speaking out, which looked really bad for Jewish people, even Jewish people who weren’t a part of the situation.

I knew Hamas wanted to kill all Jewish people. I just didn’t know that slogan means ethnic cleansing of Jewish people. It’s hard to think in those terms when most of the dead people are Palestinians, many of whom likely weren’t political, but does it mean that? Because I’ve heard a lot of liberal and leftist types repeat that; is it actually a call for Jewish ethnic cleansing?, because that is quite scary.

This may be a post that primarily just illustrates my ignorance of geography. What river? What sea? Perhaps it seems innocuous because I don’t understand International geographical stuff, sort of like how some people from the US say Europe is a county they never want to visit. It’s interesting to me because I’m somewhat ignorant, but so are lots of people. Do most people view that slogan as a call for ethnic cleansing?

It still doesn’t mean the war crimes were okay. There was a ton of stuff just posted on TikTok, all out in the open, for months, until it was bought out and taken down.

I’m still open to it…

Pink is succesfully minimizing and normalizing actual antisemitism with this garbage.

That’s a really interesting perspective.

Thanks for enlightening me with the photo.

So I still believe you can support human rights and not be an antisemite and be critical of human rights abuses of Gazans, but this is the sort of joke an antisemite might make. The again, he apologized.

I really believe people should be able to accidentally make mistakes and fuck up and not get cancelled. But this does put a slightly different spin on things where I can understand why people would question things. Because it’s more than just a mild costume, it’s reminiscent of historical Nazi depictions of Jewish people.

He may have just genuinely fucked up and not realized how disrespectful that was… or maybe he is an antisemite. But it’s sort of like the Musk Hitler salute and “how could you not know what that means or how people would react?” I think Makelmore is probably a decent person based on his history and probably just massively fucked up, but I could be wrong on that, and I really wish I didn’t have to wonder.

I still think Gazans are being treated horribly and human rights violations are occurring and people shouldn’t be penalized for wanting human rights standards.

Which part of Asia? It’s a big country. But I’m still interesting in finding out how to do this…

Where is here?

It’s really upsetting when people equate human rights support with antisemitism.

Human rights support does not mean anti-Israel.

Being against genocide and being for human rights and supporting Israel’s ability to defend itself against Hamas and also saying Israel is committing human rights violations are not logically inconsistent positions.

It does bother me when support for Gazans treads into the realm of antisemitism, that does sometimes happen, antisemitism is increasing and is awful, and also, there’s no indication that I see that Macklemore was being antisemitic.

Pink mentioned in her response he once had a Same Love performance in which he was making fun of Jewish people. I haven’t seen that, I can’t find it online, and I don’t know if seeing it would make a difference in my view of this.

I’m not against this idea… How do we make it happen?

The sad thing is many regular people in the USA are such assholes that given the choice between “treat trans people poorly and extreme poverty for most people” or “treat trans people nicely and have affordability and a good economy” many people will choose the platform that fucks themselves over and treat trans people badly… because they are just that religious and stupid.

Are you inviting me over?