High boomer energy on this one

Fair enough. I searched for pcap files in all the repositories for Hypfer on GitHub but found nothing - do they live somewhere else, or is this just GitHubs search being generally lacking?

Given that you are the author of the project, I do consider you the higher authority on what it can and cannot do.

But to me, there’s a slight distinction to be made here - Valetudo allows you to directly control the robot from a server running locally on the robot, giving you the option to not interact with a cloud service in order to remotely control the robot vacuum.

This doesn’t immediately imply that the robot is directly prevented from passing information to a cloud service - just that the cloud service does not have to be involved as a command proxy.

The larger feature I was thinking of was not only serving a local server to allow commands to come in directly, but also actively prevent any outgoing connections from the robot vacuum to its manufacturers cloud.

Again, you are the author - you know far better what Valetudo does and does not do, so your information weighs heavier here.

I guess I can also mention that I will be pleasantly surprised if my Chinese robot vacuum has actually been prevented from logging any information back home as a part of me having run Valetudo for the past years.

Holy shit, someone’s competing for the most cringe meme ever created

To be fair, their sales in Sweden have absolutely collapsed.

As sad as it may seem, Tesla did kind of win that fight in the end. All the union employees were bought out in the end, and the strike was called off. Tesla operates with impunity in Sweden.

Interesting.

This seems to be a model-specific quirk and moreso a side effect of getting Valetudo to work rather than an explicit goal - the same option does not appear in DustBuilder for my model (Roborock S5, still going strong after 941 hours of cleaning time).

I feel like I should check out this DEFCON talk though.

I learned something new today, thank you for that

Valetudo actively blocks the cloud connections.

Are you sure about that? It’d be a pretty big feature to implement, and surely it would be something that the Valetudo author would mention in the docs for the project.

I’m not talking about the code in Valetudo - I’m talking about the code that’s already running on the robot vacuum before installing Valetudo. It remains on the device after you install Valetudo.

Basically, any concerns about privacy stemming from the original software on the robot vacuum do not get eliminated by installing Valetudo

I’m not convinced this actually holds. To be able to use Valetudo at all, you at minimum do need to connect it to a wifi network which you are connected to as well on some kind of device. Unless you happen to be setting up some kind of firewalling on the robot vacuum, it is at that point free to start logging whatever information it deems appropriate.

Valetudo runs alongside the existing software on the robot vacuum though, does it not?

Air conditioning is uncommon in homes in Northern Europe.

Not only is it uncommon, our buildings are generally not set up for convenient installation of AC - window units are not compatible with our window types - nor have we put any effort into optimizing for keeping our homes cool, since the primary challenge we face is keeping our homes sufficiently hot for the vast majority of the year.

Retrofitting all homes to cope with our new climate reality is going to be an immensely expensive endeavour.

I mean what did you expect

What a fucking loser

Right. So I live in an apartment in the capital of my country, where transit moves far more people than the highways ever does.

While we’re being derogatory, your opinion is incredibly American

I’m not sure what the implication here is to be honest - am I supposed to be the small town man in this scenario?

I guess technically it can be a 2+1 highway if you so will, but true.

Still, anything above 4 lanes is dangerously close to mental illness territory

Anything above 3 lanes is no longer a highway, it’s a mental illness

Probably not, but that’s because the lockpicks are not digital and hence not covered by DMCA

It certainly is one of the languages of all time