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  • I’m using wefwef and I switched back and forth between wefwef, memmy and mlem.
    Here are some things I considered:

    • Inline images are shown in posts(instead of linked to at the end): mlem, wefwef
    • Opening images and zooming them: memmy, wefwef
    • saving images: memmy (Edit: wefwef too since on of the latest updates)
    • Adjustable text size: memmy, wefwef
    • compact view is actually compact: wefwef, mlem (Edit: memmy too since the latest update)
    • jumping to comments from your inbox: wefwef , Memmy(kind of, shows comment chain of that specific post, but not highlights the comment and has no way of switching to all comments from there)
    • edit comments: wefwef, memmy

    As you can see, wefwef is present in all of these ^^ jumping to comment is a pretty big one for me, aswell as the inline images


  • But it does.
    Example: You’re on lemmy.world. Let’s say lemmy.world defederates lemmy.ml today.

    Now you won’t be able to see any new posts made by users of lemmy.ml, be it on lemmy.ml itself or on any other instance. You will still see everything that was posted up until the defederation though because defederation just means that your instance won’t request new copies of the content of lemmy.ml .
    And they also can’t post stuff on comunities of lemmy.world(I believe they technically could do that, just that nobody could see it, but it may be that by now it’s entirely blocked to even make a post there).

    Now as long as lemmy.ml doesn’t defederate lemmy.world too, their users will still be able to see your comments and may also reply to your comments on other instances, but you won’t see that.

    So defederation mainly serves two purposes for the users of the instance that defederates another instance:

    1. Their users won’t see any content from comunities of those instances in their “all” feed and also won’t see any posts from users of that instance in the comment sections of any comunity of any instance.
    2. Users of those instance won’t be able to post on their instance.





  • Taxxor@lemm.eetoMemes@lemmy.mlI hereby name thee Chaosbringer
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    1 year ago

    Not what I said, but okay…

    So you think that being a nazi automatically means that every view you have on anything is bad by default or that you are not able to participate in any normal conversations that don’t touch that topic, like technology or gaming, without writing racist stuff?
    Because that would be the only reason defederation would be justified in my eyes.
    In any other case, just don’t visit their home instance.


  • Taxxor@lemm.eetoMemes@lemmy.mlI hereby name thee Chaosbringer
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    If a bunch of nazis want to run a server and post racist shit all day we can’t stop them. But we can (and should) defederate from them. They can have their own private island.

    And what if they post racist shit all day on their own instance but also post normal and helpful stuff on communities of other instances? Just don’t visit their communities, that’s it. No need to block potentially helpful posts of members of that instance everywhere.
    The same thing when there’s a NSFW and your own instance doesn’t want to see NSFW stuff. That’s fine but it’s not like the users of that NSFW instance are running around posting porn on every other community.

    If some of them do, block the users. But there’s no reason defederating the whole instance because those users can and do also participate just fine in other topics that have nothing to do with NSFW or nazi stuff.

    For example why should a programmer that has a nazi instance as his home not be allowed to post memes in a community about programming humour from a regular instance, when he doesn’t post anything there that is in any way related to him being a nazi?


  • Why would anyone want to stay connected to a Nazi community, except for the obvious reasons?

    Besides that Nazis were just one extreme example, even there you can make the case that not everything people there care about is nazi stuff.
    It’s like looking at a specifically Christian instance you wouldn’t expect their users to only ever post or comment about God or Jesus.
    Users of such an instance can very well comment on instances like gaming or technology that have nothing to do with their particular instance world view and you wouldn’t know they are nazis and it also wouldn’t matter, instead their comments would benefit the thread just as much as any other comments.

    By defederating the instance, you’ll also block interactions like this.

    Lets take a tech community on a regular instance as an example. I make a post because I have a problem that needs quick help. Should I care if a person commenting and offering me a solution to my issue could potentially be a nazi because he is a member of Instance that is known for nazis? No because that has nothing to do with the thread. If he can help my with my problem I would want to see his post.


  • we’ve been blocked by precisely one actual instance - the predominantly German-speaking feddit.de

    Which also was my first home instance until I noticed that a comment chain I accidentaly started using another lemmy instance was not visible when looking at the thread though feddit. Not even my own comments made with an instance that wasn’t blocked. Turns out the user I answered to start that chain was a member of your instance and thus the comment and everything following it was not visible for feddit users.

    Which is why I’m a full time lemm.ee user for now bc at the time it had 0 blocked instances and was blocked by 0 too^^

    and most importantly, the admins here have explicitly stated that the policy is to avoid defederation at all possible avenues.

    That’s the policy of lemm.ee too. It has 34 blocked instances right now but those are all suspicious ones that formed and got >30K users within a couple hours and no activity at all.

    But ultimately, new users shouldn’t have to worry about such things, which is why I can’t see Lemmy growing as a whole with the tools available now.
    Everywhere it says it’s not relevant where you sign up because you can see all the stuff from other instances anyway, but that’s simply not true, it DOES matter where you sign up and even after that you could be forced to change your instance when the defederation roulette starts spinning again.

    and most importantly, the admins here have explicitly stated that the policy is to avoid defederation at all possible avenues.