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  • Looking at the top 3 exports of China (by a wide margin before anything else):

    Electrical, electronic equipment $1016.58B
    Machinery, nuclear reactors, boilers $603.82B
    Vehicles other than railway, tramway $248.31B

    That’s all high price stuff.

    Combined with its huge trade surplus, this is a classical “Buy cheap resources - sell expensive highly processed commodities back” scheme, the same as e.g. the uprising European industrializing nations employed as a strategy during their colony exploiting times (and to some degree still do in a similar fashion as China).

    No, there is nothing equal here.



  • China isn’t exploiting anyone.

    Total Imports 2025 EU / China:

    Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products $467.75B / $442.95B
    Plastics $68.38B / $56.48B
    Pearls, precious stones, metals, coins $56.12B / $118.02B
    Articles of apparel, knit or crocheted $53.13B / $3.74B
    Articles of apparel, not knit or crocheted $48.56B / $5.79B
    Iron and steel $44.08B / $30.86B
    Edible fruits, nuts, peel of citrus fruit, melons $31.17B / $20.69B
    Fish, crustaceans, molluscs, aquatics invertebrates $29.23B / $19.93B
    Rubbers $26.46B / $20.57B
    Footwear, gaiters and the like $26.30B / $5.70B
    Copper $18.63B / $74.63B
    Oil seed, oleagic fruits, grain, seed, fruits $18.63B / $57.02B
    Pulp of wood, fibrous cellulosic material, waste $11.87B / $21.98B

    So, looking at the absolute numbers, China is eploiting the world’s resources in a similar fashion as the old style European Union, so I have to disagree.

    I won’t comment on the content of your provided reports and youtube videos (of which at least two look a little… juicy… at first glance), as me just providing you with a bunch of counter-reports and videos, whose reliability you would question in a similar way as I am questioning yours, won’t change anything.


  • That’s why I wrote “if done right”.
    A truly social market economy also has to make sure that workers along the whole supply chain have to get similar rights and treatment as local workers.

    Besides that, centrally planned economies (being the opposite to plain free market capitalism), also don’t really shy away from exploiting the resources of poorer countries.
    (Looking e.g. at imperialistic China here).









  • I have specific memories of multiple math teachers telling me this from elementary school through high school

    …and I have specific memories of the Fruit of the Loom stuff we were wearing at school featuring a cornucopia…

    Memories are not static and unswayable.

    And with some cognitive social feedback the memory transformation from “You will not be able to use calculators in every situation” to the common-identity-establishing “You will not have calculators in your pockets all the time” is a minor one.

    That’s exactly the point I am trying to make.
    It is a classical candidate for Mandela Effect in action, but other than the sweatshirt logo probably not possible to prove one or the other way, although I have the feeling evidence points somewhat in the direction of a likely “false” memory.


  • Commenter was referring to its youth in the early 00s, and by that time mobile phones were ubiquitous and thanks to carrier subsidizing also pretty affordable.

    The mentioned (preinstalled) app functions already came up during the switch away from simple text based displays in the second half of the 90s (as well as the texting you mentioned).

    You are partly right, though, before that time items where more of a “single purpose” type.
    But even then, miniaturization and mass-production had already rendered the exact “You won’t have a calculator in your pocket all the time” phrase nonsensical, with everybody typically having lying around several of the free tiny giveaway solar-powered calculators in bags and drawers.

    I would guess that the original phrases the potential collective false memory is based upon, were something more like “you won’t be able to use a calculator in every situation”, which then got transmogrified over time by social reinforcement to the plausible sounding and much more exciting “You won’t have a calculator in your pocket all the time” trope.


  • I have brought it up with a few friends and most have heard the same!

    Well, that is not a indication that it is not a false memory, as the thing you describe is core part of how these kind of collective false memories are probably formed, by “social and cognitive reinforcement”:

    Scientists suggest that these are examples of false memories shaped by similar cognitive factors’ affecting multiple people and families, such as social and cognitive reinforcement of incorrect memories

    I have been e.g. affected by the (known) Mandela Effect false memory of the Fruit-of-the-Loom logo having had a cornucopia.
    I have seen the clear evidence that it has not, but I still have the memory, which feels absolutely real.
    It is a really strange feeling… No wonder it sparked the idea by some that these kind of false memories are spill-overs from alternate timelines or parallel universes :-)



  • I have always been wondering if the memory of this phrase is another example of the “Mandela Effect”, like the Monopoly guy’s monocle.

    It just sounds so plausible, as it is stylistically the kind of stuff that teachers often say and it fits so well as we all have first hand experience on how fast technology has progressed especially during the 00s.

    But on closer scrutiny it just doesn’t make sense.

    And it was already pretty obvious to anyone really early that this wouldn’t make sense.

    During my middle-school years in the 80s, things like calculator watches already were the hype (had one myself) and widespread enough for school to have to establish rules to cover those.
    Shortly after that, I remember credit-card-sized calculators that where intended to be put into your wallet to be common giveaways by banks.
    And compact GSM mobile phones started to become increasingly widespread from the mid 90s.

    I see only a tiny timespan that the phrase would have perhaps been plausible, maybe just ten or so years spanning from the early 70s to the early 80s.

    And I myself am pretty sure that I first heard the claim and the phrase itself in some relatively recent (last 10-15 years) online posts, but never before.