Multivitamins and luck, mostly

Do you have an allergic reaction when you consume non-meat foods?

Something kinda like that, yeah.

For me it’s a neuropsychological issue, not a digestive one.

I “can’t” eat most fruits and vegetables because they trigger my gag reflex so hard I can’t swallow them. After years of working with a dietician and a therapist, I’ve managed to get to the point where there are a few things I can eat that aren’t meat, bread, or ultra processed trash, but it’s hard.

Also: to be clear, I have just as much or more disdain for any other voluntary dietary restrictions. Kosher and Halal get the same side eye from me, having lived to middle age with both the constant side-eye from people who like to rag on “picky eaters” and the constant struggle of trying to find something to eat when out with friends, I view anyone who limits their eating options just because they can and they think there’s any kind of morality to what you eat as a person throwing away the massive gift of being able to just eat.

ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome

The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo.

you’re an accelerationist above all else.

Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don’t know what the words you’re using mean. It’ll save a lot of confusion later

There are about a dozen common ones that limit bioavailability of things like vitamin A or iron from plant sources. I don’t keep the list in my pocket, and the enshittification of search has risen to the point where trying to find it again just gets me lectured by an AI about how I should go vegan.

Also:

some people believe the “you can’t get nutritionally complete diet from veganism” thing, which isn’t true. All vitamins, proteins, and nutrients we need are available while vegan.

While that’s technically true, it’s not actually easy to get things like Omega-3 from plant sources, and most of the nuts and seeds that have it are expensive and/or difficult to source.

You also have to basically spend a lot more of your free time figuring out a meal plan that will allow you to actually get all the vitamins, minerals, and nutrients you need on a plant based diet, and you’ll still likely wind up eating the same meals every week bcs there’s only so many vegan sources of things your body really needs.

At the end of the day, veganism is a consumerist solution to structural problems. Much like snake oil to “reduce your carbon footprint”, it pushes responsibility for a societal problem back on the individual.

Is eating less meat, and having that meat be mostly fish and poultry a good thing for both your health and the environment? Absolutely. Is it nearly as impactful on either as getting rid of your car? I’d say probably not.

Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I’m pretty sure you’re the only person I replied to at all,

And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about “why won’t you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out” is fucking exhausted.

That would be because you don’t want to.

You want to vote for “the good guys” and go back to brunch.

Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors.

Bad news: we lock people up without trials all the time, for lots of reasons that have nothing to do with homelessness.

His actual policies aren’t socialist. Welfare Capitalism isn’t socialism, it’s just exporting some of the suffering to poorer places.

Then I’m sure you can rebut the point it’s making easily, yeah? So why don’t you? Is it because deep down you know it’s true and that makes you deeply uncomfortable?

No, it just says you need to stay awake the other 729 days of the biannual cycle. You obviously don’t want to do that, so you pretend it says something it doesn’t.

Yeah, sure.

That’s all I do all day, just post memes on Lemmy…

Fucking ShitLibs literally cannot imagine being more involved with the world than voting once every couple of years, or maybe donating a few bucks here or there.

Every brunch spot in town will be booked solid for months!

Continue organizing and fighting the system and the bipartisan status quo that made him viable to begin with.

…or in some cases it’s much simpler: some of us have conditions that make it impossible for us to survive or to thrive on a vegan diet and we’re sick unto death of vegoons pushing Evangelical Veganism and acting like we don’t exist or we’re making it up to justify the moral failing of eating meat. And there’s the constant push to normalize veganism, which just expands the number of places I can’t eat and/or people I can’t eat with.

If that type of vegan didn’t exist I wouldn’t immediately start side-eying vegans until I find out of they’re safe or not.

It’s basically an admission he can’t actually refute anything you’re saying.

My solution is exactly what I said, not sure what part has you confused…

Oh, .world. Yeah, confusion is probably your normal state.

Ok, as long as you aren’t voting to mandate sticks in anyone else’s ass, then you do you.

But if you support banning things I might enjoy just bcs you don’t or bcs some asshole convinced you my enjoyment of that vice was somehow a danger to children, then I genuinely hope someone kicks that stick far enough in to do some real damage.

republicans must lose at any cost because they are an existential threat to the fuckin planet

Things only said by people whose memory is short enough that they don’t remember Pelosi derisively dismissing the “Green Dream or Whatever”. Both parties are beholden to Wall St money, and that money makes them incapable of acting on climate change or any other existential threat that generates profits for Wall St.