Worse still, weren’t Naughty Dog actually making this for real and then Sony axed it because fuckin Bungee don’t think it was enshitified enough? Letting Bungee anywhere near ND shows just how much Sony has lost the plot.

It’s not about the software. It’s about creating a far right pipeline. Like they did with gamers and anime. Billionaires pay for users.

Defeatism. Defending public spaces is important

Dude it’s 2026, 90% of the Internet is astroturfing, including here.

The left likes to pretend that only the right are easily manipulated but it’s pretty obvious that it impacts everyone regardless of beliefs, the packaging is just different. Not sure if there are easy solutions.

I don’t think they know what artisan means.

No chance that’s actually Putin travelling that far right now.

Is there a guide somewhere for this?

And maybe most importantly, they’re too distracted to be politically motivated at all. They have ephemeral anger and reactions that fizzle out as soon as they form. The next scandal, the next season on Netflix, the next meme. They aren’t given time to think enough to care. By design.

I think it’s important to note they weren’t even men when YouTube and Social media started throwing their content at them. The early twenties misogynists were single digit boys when Tate, Rogan, and the rest of the manosphere was thrown on them.

Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.

Don’t buy things from scumbags.

Yeah that’s a good point, I guess our current social app structure isn’t designed at all to filter signal and noise. The art world has galleries which kind of do that at the expense of barrier to entry. Maybe things like Flathub and repos end up seen that way.

People can code publicly for themselves for sure but there is clearly a subset of people who feel like their slop is worthy of community attention and resources in the same way as traditional projects that have been proven over time. It’s the same as the Ai art slop paddlers thinking their work is as valuable when they don’t even know what’s it in. To be frank, largely parasitic people using largely parasitic tools. A lot of that community doesn’t hold those values you eloquently stated.

This post and op replies just seem like a thinly veiled ad…

Whether rightly or wrongly, without a body on frame construction they were never really trying to sell that to traditional truck consumers.

How do you get to that conclusion? I clearly state I believe it to be a major factor. I just don’t get why this place is so vehemently against confounding variables. It reads the same as US propaganda but opposite. Yeah, trucks bad, US bad. It’s just clearly not so simple. The US is huge and a rural town and major city have little in common. The trend is everywhere.

You can believe what you want but data from the ETSC (European Transport Safety Council) and ERSO (European Road Safety Observatory) is pretty clear. Reducing it to little cars is really slighting what Europe has accomplished. Car size is important but there has been so much more done. Little things like moving money from heavy vehicle corridors to raised sidewalks have both immediate (like visibility of pedestrians) and emergent effects (like driving culture changes).

This place is getting worse than Reddit.

Road speed has definitely increased since then. Cars are more powerful than ever and easier to drive blindly.

Road conditions have also changed. Europe has invested heavily in well designed infrastructure with a clearly stated goal of reducing road deaths.

Large vehicles in North America are clearly a major part of the problem but trying to be this reductionist seems pretty weird.

So many other variables though. European cities are designed so much better for pedestrians and cyclists. I’d argue that the driving standards are also higher in a lot of areas. Speeds often slower too since infrastructure is designed for mixed use. In North America the actual design of most roads is almost hostile to pedestrians. It’s clearly a mix a factors.

It’s super frustrating because if you talk to anyone in a blue collar or rural area they all tell you they wish they still made small trucks. The manufacturers keep upping the size and cost adding shit nobody even asked for.