• wjrii@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Leia, do you remember your mother? Your real mother?

    Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.

    Talk about burying the lede, Leia. JFC.

    If GL hadn’t sold, there would eventually have been a superduperhyperspecial edition that would have changed that line, among others, because he obviously didn’t mean it literally and it wasn’t his actual vision and only 1980s technical limitations forced him into permitting scripted lines that turned out to be bullshit. :-)

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      11 days ago

      I just assumed she meant her adopted mother, Mrs. Bail Organa. Or did I miss something here?

      Edit: nevermind, just looked it up and Breha died on Alderaan when the Death Star blew it up. Lame.

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        That detail wasn’t in any of the movies so the line in ep 6 still makes sense the way you thought. I’m pretty sure anyone would assume that’s what she meant, since we never hear that she knew she was adopted. Whoever made Bail’s wife die in the explosion of Alderaan is the one who messed up, or Lucas ignored that addition when making episode I.

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          See, I went completely the other direction. We know from the Dagobah scene that Luke already knows Leia is his sister, and he’s dealing with some pretty serious parent shit right now, so it would be on his mind. There is almost no reason for him to ask that question and specify “real” mother unless he already knew (from their years of acquaintance by this point) that she was adopted and that this would be his last chance to ask her and get a response uncolored by the impending revelation.

          Lucas ignored that addition when making episode I.

          I mean… this is just what he did. A lot. And not just with EU stuff. The mental gymnastics necessary to square the scripts of the OT with the PT would impress Simone Biles.

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            Oh Luke was definitely asking her about their birth mother, knowing that it was the same woman. The question here is that Leia didn’t know what he was talking about. Since she gives him an answer about someone who died when Leia was young, maybe she’s just thinking that Bail remarried later.

            Before the prequel trilogy came out, it could have been their birth mother she was talking about, and she just didn’t know that Luke was her brother; but after ep 3 came out, and we see Padme die, we have to assume Leia was adopted by the Organas, but Bail’s wife died when Leia was young and he later remarried, and Leia is thinking about that woman after Padme and before Bail’s new wife, thinking that she is her real mom.

            And yeah, it’s completely possible that Lucas originally intended for Padme to be the one Leia was talking about, but the point is, the movies don’t actually specify if she meant Padme or the middle wife, so it can still be explained.

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              And yeah, it’s completely possible that Lucas originally intended for Padme to be the one Leia was talking about, but the point is, the movies don’t actually specify if she meant Padme or the middle wife, so it can still be explained.