I understand that it may be problematic sometimes but this was very smooth. I didn’t even say anything.

A: what’s your number for the whatsapp group Me: I don’t have whatsapp because of facebook. B: ok, we have to use signal then A: ok

And that was it. Life can be very easy sometimes

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      XMPP. A business can self-host, there are public servers, or there are many businesses which offer customised xmpp hosting as a service.

      I can be federated with other xmpp servers or be a locked-down work-only service, or federate with chosen other servers (such as a client company’s xmpp servers).

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        The main problem is, you need to have someone good enough to setup a proper firewall when selfhosting.

        Sure, it might not take $$$$, but it will take $, which is definitely more than nothing.

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          If that’s the main problem then that’s easy to solve! Simply use a free public xmpp server.

          I mention the self- and paid-hosting options because businesses tend to like having a sevice agreement backed by a contract, and may have additional specialised requirements not provided by free services (xmpp or otherwise).

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          Snikket exists for this type of user. If money is an issue, since XMPP is actually lightweight unlike Matrix, you can host multiple things even on the cheapest VPSs so it isn’t dedicated to one taskl or self-host out of your home (which is what I do, but also with some small sites, a feed aggregator, Mumble, terminal sharing, Darcs/Pijul version control systems, & Nix remote builder).

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            Skill issue, not money issue.

            But when you are a business, everything can be converted into a money issue.

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              skill issue

              I don’t understand how. Snikket is fully boxed up & preconfigured for the lazy, & offers straight-up hosting for the the even lazier.

              I say lazy since setting up ejabbered is already easy to set up with sane defaults, a web admin UI, & availability in like every package manager.