• conciselyverbose@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Epic can’t make a dent because their product is dogshit.

    Customers don’t care that Valve takes a well earned cut (that only applies buying directly from Steam); they care that their games are on a platform that’s actually fucking useful. If Epic didn’t insult gamers shipping that piece of trash and had put work into actually providing a product that could possibly be considered acceptable, they might have been able to make a dent.

    You’re not going to take market share with shitty gimmicks if your actual product is a crime against humanity no one wants.

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      1 year ago

      yeah epic might have a chance if they actually tried to make their launcher and client good and have similar features as steam

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          1 year ago

          The cut, genius. The cut you said is “well earned.” That is what’s horseshit, here.

          And on consoles.

          And on phones.

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            And every one of them comes back because paying Steam 30% is by far the most profitable way to do business. They absolutely deserve every single penny of it.

            30% commission on an all margin product is not even sort of unusual or unfair.

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                  Then developers can release games off steam, and some do.

                  But steam has many features people want and use that would add development costs if every dev had to make similar tools in house.

                  Think SteamVR, Steam Controller, workshop, community forums, steam achievements, steam overlay, friends, etc …

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                    ‘This thing should be slightly different.’

                    ‘Then use something else entirely!’

                    Some of y’all really do not know how criticism works.

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              “It makes money so it can’t be wrong.”

              “It’s commonplace so it must be fine.”

              Y’all have no idea what criticism even looks like.

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                The fact that using their services and paying them their cut is more profitable than not doing so absolutely, in and of itself, proves beyond discussion that their cut is fair.

                Yes, sales should cost money. Moving units is a fucking massive value add. Valve deserves every penny they take and more. They’re the best thing that ever happened to PC gaming and nothing else is remotely close.

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                  Beyond discussion! What a mind-job.

                  Continued use only proves this is a way to make money. Probably the best available way. But to suggest that, so long as people are doing it, there cannot possibly be problems, is obvious crap.

                  Especially when you add “and more.” Oh: so this isn’t the exact right amount, as decreed by mighty god himself? We can talk about the middleman’s cut, so long as the rent goes up?

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            1 year ago

            What’s your metric for “well earned” here? What are some ways it could be earned? What do you think is the right amount?

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        Other than the fact it’s full of Chinese spyware?

        Let’s see…

        The interface sucks.

        The app is barely stable and crashes randomly.

        Absolutely zero thoughts on Linux gaming.

        Unusable communities.

        I’m sure others can give more reasons.

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        For starters, they put so little developments money into EGS that they went two years without a shopping cart, a feature that effectively every other online store has and could be custom coded properly in a day