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                  COVID-19 had the 5th worst death toll of any pandemic in human history, and is in the top 10 of global population lost. And that was with modern medicine and (with some Republican political exceptions) reasonably aggressive global response.

                  COVID-19 was bad, worse than most people seem to remember. I’ve got a pandemic-trained MCE expert in my family. Everyone saw it coming when they saw the numbers, and it happened worse than expected. Hospitals overflowing capacity from just critical cases. Tent hospitals being built. They fucking activated the mass-grave contracts to store the bodies. For the first time in nearly a century. Bet you didn’t know that. OEMS doesn’t publish actions like that because they don’t want to cause further panic. It comes through a private email to paramedics (and, fwiw I thought this part silly, sent under a pseudonym that only people in the field would recognize)

                  For the record (not that I think you actually care about facts, but I’m putting this up there for neutral observers), the deadliness of a pandemic is not primarily driven by its death rate. Only an ignorant person would look to that first. A virus with a 0.1% death rate could end humankind. Many viruses with high death rates have less of an impact. Potentially more important factors are the spread rate (influenced by the incubation rate and contagiousness window), and immunity rates (both inherent immunity and acquired immunity). That COVID-19 was a COVID family of illness (cold family, no known cures, treatments, or immunization paths) made it worse.

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              negative side effects that masking, isolating, and the vax have been shown to have

              Such as?

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                  Lmao. My man I have, and I’m asking you to clarify because I have not seen any of these so-called negative effects from wearing masks and taking the vaccine. Such a cop out answer. It’s almost always a sign that you are talking out your ass if you aren’t willing to clearly state your point.

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                  Funny how you don’t have a real rebuttal so you’ve resorted to childish drawings of pig shit

                  “Funny how you don’t have a real rebuttal so you’ve resorted to childish drawings of pig shit”

                  You realize, to the rest of us, the far-right “do the research” bullshit is actually worse and more childish than actual drawings of pig shit, right?

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            The right to infect and kill my neighbors so we don’t have to get our cheeks a little sweaty from a mask. Obviously.

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              Okay, how was there an attempt at taking away both of these things? Because I can’t think of any. Also if free press took a hit during the pandemic no one told Fox News because they’ve been spouting their vile lies the entire time lmal

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                  I think it’s a great example because they’re the single biggest source of conservative misinformation lmao. If the press was being silenced by some left-wing conspiracy don’t you think Fox would have been a major target for them??

                  Ignoring the fact that Rogan is an ignorant dumbass who does absolutely no fact checking, did Malone back any of his claims up or were they all just from his mouth? Because Malone was not the “literal inventor” of mRNA vaccines. It was a huge collaborative effort that he played a part in along with hundreds of other researchers over decades. But you already know this cause you do your own research instead of just taking people’s word for it right?

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              I saw plenty of jackasses using their free speech to spread misinformation, like the vaccines not working and the mask not being necessary.

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          You do know it was only a <2% death rate because of the pandemic response, right?

          The masks, the stay at home, the vaccinations were necessary because they worked.

          It would have been even lower if jackasses like you didn’t think they knew more about a virus than the actual scientists who dedicated their lives to researching stuff like that.