• otp@sh.itjust.works
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    The movement could’ve infiltrated from the outside and has co-opted the home-grown conservatives

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      Yeah sure, you can tell yourself whatever you need to to keep believing that evil foreigners are the reason conservatives are like this

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        Are you genuinely not familiar with the foreign money that goes into funding far-right movements in the West (and the US in particular)? Or the various international parties who stand to gain from having Trump elected?

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          You’re moving the goal posts. How do those prove “conservatives have been co-opted by foreign agents” and not just that conservatives are happy to take funding from other shitty people? You seriously think conservatives wouldn’t be fascist-adjacent if Russia wasn’t paying them?

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            No, I’m not moving the goalposts.

            Your position seems to fall under black-and-white thinking. Either they’re home-grown, OR they’re manipulated through external influences, but not both. I’m saying that both are true. If you also believe that both are true, then we’re in agreement and I don’t think we need to argue about anything.

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        Foreign influence or not, they propose bad ideas and lie about everything to justify their bad ideas. Something that would irreparably damage a nation given enough time and they’ve had decades.