An officer in upstate New York shot and killed a teen fleeing while pointing a replica gun, police said Saturday.

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    Hey I’ll give them some credit with that headline.

    Not “13-year-old killed in police shooting” or “a 13-year old died during a police interaction” etc. Nope, they fully went with “Police in New York shoot and kill 13-year-old.” Thank you, PBS.

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    The shooting happened Friday night after officers in Utica stopped two youths at around 10:18 p.m.

    One of them fled and pointed what appeared to be a handgun at the officers, according to a statement by the Utica Police Department.

    I’ll be interested to see when that footage is released and what it contains.

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      The department said it is also aware of a video circulating on social media of the incident but warned that it does not portray the incident in its entirety.

      I have a feeling the officially released footage might also not portray the incident in its entirety…

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    Outcome is unfortunate but pointing a gun, replica or not, at an officer has always been a very bad idea. Nothing is different now vs 30 years ago.

    Do we as a society really need reminding don’t point weapons at police? Don’t do it folks.

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      Your flaw is that you’re taking the police at their word. Why the fuck would a 13 year old point a pellet gun at the cops?

      If I see footage that corroborates their story I’ll believe it. Until then, I’m assuming the murderer is also a liar. ACAB

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        I haven’t heard a statement from the other side of the story, but it seems you have. So please, inform us all. Otherwise, your speculation based in distrust and hate is moot.

        We only have one source of facts at the moment, with a promise for a more detailed followup so, yeah, it carries weight.

        I don’t know why a 13yo would do such a thing, or why they even had a replica gun. I’m not them. I feel sorry for them, but according to the facts I know right now, it was a bad choice. I am especially interested if the red tip were removed designating a toy. As the article references a replica, not a toy, I wonder if that had some influence in the outcome.

        I am fully prepared to change my view if new evidence persuades me.

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          If you’d read the article, the police admitted that they are lying about it:

          The department said it is also aware of a video circulating on social media of the incident but warned that it does not portray the incident in its entirety.

          When the police say ‘believe us not the evidence’, that means they’re lying.

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            WOW do you like your own narrative.

            That’s not an admission to lying whatsoever.

            That is literally what it says it is: that the video circulating online does not portray the entire incident.

            Any armchair editor knows how to add start/stop points to a clip. It could be to emphasize a point, exclude content, or simply meet time constraints.

            People these days… so easily radicalized. Take a breather and wait for more info.

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              When the police kill an unarmed child and then try to justify their actions, they’re going to have to lie because there’s no justifiable reason to kill an unarmed child. Hence claiming that the dead child both fled and menanced them and pre-discrediting the evidence against them.

              There’s an ocean of examples of police lying to cover up their killings. They lie so often that they got the courts to confirm they have no duty to tell the truth.

              Your radical denial of where all the evidence points is not as moderate as you seem to believe.

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                  Yes, unarmed. As in not bearing a weapon. A toy is not a weapon and poses no threat at all.

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    One of them fled and pointed what appeared to be a handgun at the officers, according to a statement by the Utica Police Department.

    If the footage confirms this, it makes sense that the officer shot him. Don’t point guns or gun replicas at people.

    But they were fleeing and pointed a gun at him? Either the reporting is shitty or it did not happen like the police say it happened.