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    Teachers can make this backfire by teaching kids about how Jesus said, among other things:

    • Rich people don’t go to heaven
    • Jesus’s answer to religious people not wanting to see things was for the people complaining to pluck out their eyes.
    • How Jesus told his followers to sell their shit and give it to the poor.

    All things republicans hate because it goes against their ideals. Also they can talk about how in Acts it says Christians lived communally or just read James 5:1-6 verbatim.

    But I guarantee the schools will force their teachers only to read parts of the bible that the state demand, because it’s not about Christianity, it’s about using religion to control people.

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        You’ve not fought against it very well, have you?

        • You have school “voucher” schemes for religious schools, which do shit like teach kids that Evolution is wrong because of the bible.
        • You added “In God we Trust” do your money and added “Under God” to the pledge of allegiance in the 1950s (The pledge, with or without it, is in itself a form of state worship).
        • You have had presidents (Reagan, Bush II) openly promote the idea that America is a Christian state through historical falsehoods.
        • One of the most powerful factions in your government are American Evangelicals who have used their power to promote religious based laws, especially against women and minorities.
        • Every President in recent times has had to show themselves to be openly Christian, with “not being christian (enough)” being a common attack strategy.

        And that’s just Christianity, if I was going to go into how you worship the state…

        • You have Four Faces of Presidents carved on a literal sacred mountain.
        • You make your kids pledge allegiance to the state every morning (I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands).
        • You have two (2) congress funded art pieces that depict George Washington as a God (Washington Enthroned and The Apotheosis of Washington), the latter of which is in the oculus of the Rotunda at Congress for everyone to see.
        • The Lincoln Memorial is straight up designed like a Greco-Roman Temple.
        • You have, as a social norm, displaying your flag outside your house.

        How is that not going to be interpreted as “religious”?

        Now, I know someone is going to be all “lol aren’t you from the uk where you worship the royal family” well guess fucking what:

        1. Barely anyone in the UK worships the royals, especially where I’m from (Scotland) and the people who do even in England are considered weird. Our relationship with the Royals as a country is usually one of aggressive irreverence. My family’s nicknames for the king includes “The Jug Eared Dwarf”, “Chuckie III” and “Tearlach an Chluas”.
        2. Despite having two (2) established churches (Church of England and Church of Scotland), non religious people make up the majority and the UK is aggressively secular.
        3. Despite the established religion and having the (in practice) head of state also be the (in practice) head of the Church, none of our politicians try and use religion to justify their bullshit and those who do are considered wankers.

        America, in the eyes of most of the world, is aggressively religious, not just in terms of christianity but also in worship of the state.

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    Some neighboring states that aren’t christo-fascist are about to get some really good teachers. Welcome to Colorado!

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    when the federal government makes everything a state’s rights issue we get fifty states doing whatever the hell they want

    obvious at this point Biden has either lost the reins or is intentionally letting the nation slip

    very coincidental that we lost women’s rights and we have a huge surge of religious oppression at the same time a prolife religious right leaning conservative democrat gets at the helm

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      That kind of attitude lingers dangerously close to the everything-is-a-conspiracy-by-the-shadowy-cabal line of reasoning. Biden’s a Catholic, but it’s certainly not “obvious” that he’s “intentionally letting the nation slip”. You can scroll down barely a page on whitehouse.gov and watch the president commit to restoring the standard of Roe v Wade. It’s under the statements in favor of Pride, committing to combating gun deaths, lowering housing costs, and protecting pensions. Joe Biden’s executive orders have been the most progressive executive action since Roosevelt.

      Here’s something a lot of non-religious folks might not know: the evangelical right? They hate Catholics. The MAGAs hate them ideologically, but the ones running the show hate them because the Catholic Church is their competition when it comes to running private schools and otherwise lucrative community support institutions. Biden is absolutely not on their side, theologically or otherwise.

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        his idea of committing is asking for donations and promising to look into that once the money hits a certain amount

        living in the US either way feels like living in a Church fucking awful

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      I don’t know that there is much Biden can do. The Federal government can’t just tell a state no, they have to take them to court and prove that they are violating federal law. And we now have gerrymandered-to-hell legislatures violating federal law right and left and there’s only so much time and so many resources.

      I’m not going to tout Biden as the greatest president ever or anything, but I can’t blame him for this. He’s not responsible for putting Ryan Walters in his position and he doesn’t have the power to get rid of him.

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        Biden has been a career politician longer than been alive or you perhaps

        definitely blame him and all Democrats and Republicans

        don’t wake up one day and magically become progressive

        he always has been right leaning and his party could have been at least shouting to the rooftops about the injustices but instead just deafening silence

        did he even mention this at the debates last night? how about cop city? or anything relevant?

        Good Ol’ Silent Joe

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          This news story broke yesterday and it’s the weekend. Give him a few minutes before you denounce him for what he hasn’t done.

          We have such a ridiculous instant gratification culture.

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            when the place you reside in is currently being threatened as is your way of life do expect the leader and chief of said place to put in an effort to say something on any platform he could as if he is our side in all this

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              Yes, again, I understand that you want Biden to say something the second you learned about that something, but it’s the weekend. That’s just not how things work. If Biden doesn’t say something next week, sure, criticize him. But expecting him to put out a press release or hold a press conference about a non-urgent issue over the weekend is silly.

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                Lol he’s been in politics for 50 years. He built this house. He helped steer the ship. He flipped the blinker and shouted shift into 5th gear.

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                  I have no idea what on Earth you’re talking about or why that means Biden needs to make a comment on this new policy before Monday.